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Lil Alley Cat · 03-28-2010, 08:43 PM

I agree, as does the vast majority of the pony community, asking for BINs is just wrong, regardless of the situation.

If an item ends without a winning bid, and is re-listed and still the price is too high, I wait till it ends again. Then I contact the seller and tell them I would be interested if they relisted the item and suggest they put in a "make an offer" option. Then I can make an offer but so can anyone else who may have been watching it. Keep it fair for everyone.

QuestorStar · 03-28-2010, 08:52 PM

I totally agree and see what you guys are saying-BUT on the other paw, isnt it the seller's fault for accepting to put up a BIN? If I were a seller and listing something and someone asked for a BIN, it usually means that A)the item is worth more than being offered or B) I have a sought after item and should let the auction run its course. Or BOTH! SO if a seller is gullible enough to list a BIN on an item with bids, that's kind of their fault. As sellers (of anything, not just ponies) you could offer the emailer to place a bid for the amount they're offering and wish them luck. Everyone now a days is broke, so in some ways I dont blame anyone for trying to find a deal (or get one) but that doesnt mean I agree with the practice.

and oh! On an unrelated note-this was my 1600th post!! Woo Hoo!

Kar Red Roses · 03-28-2010, 09:17 PM

As an ebay seller, I won't accept requests to add BINs to my items, because I know darned well that most people just do it to try and snag the item at a good price. I might be cheating myself if I accepted a BIN on something, you never know unless you let the auction run its course. As a buyer, I wouldn't ask for a BIN either, seems underhanded to me. I like to throw my max bid in toward the very end and then hold my breath to see if I won! /2 cents

SoSoftClaire · 03-29-2010, 04:53 PM

I just wanted to say I'm glad you brought this up. I think new members are probably glad too. We as a community do have a series of unspoken rules of etiquette, and it took me a while to figure them all out, but I did it through learning from others, through discussion on the boards, and through various bans that went on, and when others would bring up other members who were banned long before.

Lots of members don't want to remember the bad times, or join in discussions on bans or other happenings, some people don't even want to leave neutral feedback, much less negative, and I do understand that trepidation; but what we really need is an honest community, full of people who are willing to be ethical, and yet also willing to let others know when someone else is not.

I probably didn't word that the best, but I think it says what I truly mean.... maybe later when I'm thinking more clearly, I'll be able to elaborate.

But yes, I also agree; asking for BINs on an item is in bad form, and if you are found out, you will probably lose some respect and or friends. Hawk-eyed collectors are out there and looking out, so best practice is: If you aren't sure if others would frown upon it, feel free to ask someone- be it a mod or just starting a thread here, we'll let you know.

josiekat · 03-31-2010, 11:27 AM

Ok, so I will probably get shot for this......

I don't personally ask for BIN's. Mostly because I know that it is frowned upon, and that more than likely the seller is going to say no anyway (Plus, I buy most of my ponies these days here on the TP). BUT, to me personally, I don't really care that people do it. I mean, yes, I would be annoyed at the re-sale of the item at much higher price, but I think most people do it to try and find a deal. I can't really fault them for that. As I was taught as a kid, "It never hurts to ask." I don't really see it as unfair for someone to ask for a BIN on a pony for $20, and I was willing to pay $50. They got the deal....great for them!

The only exception for me would be if there were bids on it already and someone does this. That I do not find ok. However, to me, if there are no bids, I personally see nothing wrong with it. But that's just my two cents, and I know I am in the minority here.

Pikabubba · 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by josiekat

The only exception for me would be if there were bids on it already and someone does this. That I do not find ok.

If people remember correctly, this was the huge issue that was going on years ago. Bids would already be placed, then the seller will cancel the bids, close the auctions and use the excuse like "my dog ate the ponies, sorry".

The asking for placement for an actual BIN is not a very new thing. Still new compared to the past issue and it started becoming a popular practice in recent times. I am against it the idea but people will still do it anyways. It is NOT something only new people do.

ETA: I just wanted to add something. I don't carry a grudge for the ebay issues as much as I do for this- I have more of an issue and concern when new members join and sometimes an older member will swindle the unknowing seller, offering chump change for their HTF ponies. Thankfully this does not really happen as often anymore.

whippetluv · 04-01-2010, 08:31 AM

I have not personally done it...but I see nothing wrong with asking for a BIN if there are no bids and it is not against ebays rules. If you wanted it so bad...you should do the same. *shrugs* All is fair in love and ponies.

NapperCasper · 04-05-2010, 07:22 PM

Im sure... but i need to post my annoyance somewhere.
I placed a bid on
Vintage My Little Pony Lot around 30 ponies. on eBay (end time 05-Apr-10 18:18:02 BST)

And she ended it early. I mailed asking why? And she said she had been offered £50 on collection... i would have happily paid more through auction... so annoyed.

sed75 · 04-05-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NapperCasper

Im sure... but i need to post my annoyance somewhere.
I placed a bid on
Vintage My Little Pony Lot around 30 ponies. on eBay (end time 05-Apr-10 18:18:02 BST)

And she ended it early. I mailed asking why? And she said she had been offered £50 on collection... i would have happily paid more through auction... so annoyed.

I would have said that I was disappointed because my high bid was £65 (just to mess with her).

I do not agree with people asking sellers to end auctions early. Even if they don't have bids. Nowadays, 90% of all bidders do not even place a bid until the last hour of an auction.

Peace · 04-06-2010, 01:49 AM

Here's another one that's NOT okay to pull:

I remember one time I won a few auctions on eBay from a UK seller, and just because another bidder retracted several bids, she ended the auctions seconds before their ending time and relisted them just so she could try and get more money for them.

Didn't matter that I would have won the auctions ANYWAY, even with the other bidder retracting their bids (she told me that I would have) it just meant that the end price was much lower than she was looking more.

Really *bleeped* me off.

That's not cool.

Thankfully one of the auctions was won by someone I knew and he only wanted one pony from the lot. Sold me the rest for dirt cheap when he found out the wank involved. Still not cool though.