Just because it's a Mountain Boy doesn't mean...

[Lil Alley Cat]

Ok because it is so frustrating, I am posting this at both boards. I thought it would be nice to get the public opinion out there on what is considered good pony edicate in our community in a well seen forum (hence why I chose general). No more acting like it's an accepted practice or skirting it under the rug when the buyer/emailer is a known pony collector in our community please.

Just because it's a Mountain Boy doesn't mean...you have the right to email the ebay seller and ask FOR or IF they have a BIN when they didn't list it for one!

If I see another email from a known pony collector in our community asking for a BIN on a rare pony I think I'm going to implode.

It's so nice of seller to post the questions from ebay members don't you think?

There was a long post addressing this kind of behavior on the other board when it happened, successfully, on a MOC Baby Sapphire. It was ignored when a known pony collector in our community asked for a BIN on an auction with more than one rare (her email/name was posted in the auction by the seller, how much more proof do you need?). It is really disheartening to see it happen, and continue to happen.

Let's play nice kids.

Let's encourage each other to be fair. Let's make sure any new collectors know this is really looked down on.

I now return you to your rainbows and cupcakes

[skig]

This has been discussed so, so many times. I don't understand why anyone still thinks that it's acceptable. New members, though, may not know how truly unacceptable it is.

A couple of years back, a new member was messaging sellers requesting really, REALLY low BIN prices. It didn't matter if the auction already had bids. She wanted what she wanted. When the sellers agreed, she tried to flip the ponies on the boards. She claimed that she was doing this to save money for her wedding. She knew it was wrong but played dumb when she was found out. (This was before eBay hid user IDs on auctions.) She promised not to do it again because she valued her place in the community.

So... she was found to be continuing the practice under her fiancé's eBay ID. When confronted, she lied, of course, and said that it was her fiancé was who had done it. She tried to manipulate everyone into believing that she cared when the only thing she valued or cared about was money. Anyway, she was banned from both the TP and the Arena.

I find it absolutely disgraceful that a long-time member would think that this is acceptable behavior or that he/she wouldn't eventually be found out. It's even more disgraceful if this person is allowed to remain a part of the online community. Regardless of how long you have been around, if you are found to be dishonest through your business practices in the community (which includes violating eBay's ToS), you should be banned. There are long-time members who have been banned for less...

[sirenamber]

...what is a BIN? (LOL) Can you tell I'm a newb? ^_^ Thanks!

[Pikabubba]

BIN=Buy it now

..whoops , hit reply too early lol
Some people email the ebay seller and instead of waiting for the auction to end with bids, ask them to set the auction up with a set price to buy it at that time.

[Recyclebella]

Oh, I didn't know this was a no-no. I have never requested a BIN on an active listing, although I have requested that sellers relist items that ended with no bids (items I found after the auction had ended, for example). From a seller's perspective, I usually don't put a BIN because it costs more to list it, and I feel that it discourages people from placing a bid, but I will always consider listing a BIN for interested buyers if the item has no bids, especially if it has no "watchers," to prevent having an unsold item. Of course, I don't sell ponies on ebay; I sell random stuff I find so I can BUY ponies, but. . .you know. Anyway, thanks for the heads up.

[windy]

The other day a buyer asked me what my BIN price would be on the Wave Dancer/Seawinkle duo that I currently have for auction. Whether the ponies are rare or common, I feel it's unacceptable. I posted my response. I told him that it's an auction and if he's interested in the ponies, he has to bid. BINs are so boring! After selling a few ponies last week, I'm hooked on watching my auctions in the last hour. It gets exciting...or maybe I just need to get out more.

[Rhys]

Amen!

I'm sick of seeing collectors who know its frowned upon and still seek out BINs on auctions. Its cheating, pure and simple. I don't care if you offer xx amount on its value, its wrong. You're cheating out the seller of a true final value price AND everyone else in the community of their chance on winning it.

Also I'm disappointed in the arena mods who lock threads on discussions such as these or try to make it seem less improtant than it is. People who Tepper auctions should be made aware that this behaviour will not be accepted and if you want to be a part of this community DO NOT 'steal' auctions. And I for one would want to know who engages in this sort of behaviour so that I may choose whether or not to deal with them, I'm sure others feel the same.

In short- if you're caught breaking a community rule, you should be kicked out of the community or at least be prepared to face the distrust and backlash from others.

[partypony566]

yeah....the thread on the arena got locked without any reason posted :/ anyway...it annoys me too, especially if I am watching something, then all of a sudden it's not there anymore. :(

but I am noticing ALOT of sellers now have stated in their auction: 'we will not end this auction early/and no BIN offers'. So hopefully sellers are wising up to it too.

[apanda0622]

I only ask about a BIN if the item was relisted because no one bid on it the first time it was on ebay. Sometimes the seller does it. But I only ask on common items with a fair price--nothing rare though.

I can see how that can be annoying, but I also can see that it could be good too if you have an item that isn't selling on ebay and you keep relisting it and someone wants a BIN.

I've even had a seller offer a BIN when I inquired about an item that didn't sell was going to be relisted. I've also done a BIN for someone else and I see it as a definite sale whereas an auction can be a gamble.

But I agree it is wrong to ask for a BIN on high priced rare items.

[WhispersOfTheWind]

if you have an item that isn't selling when you relist it just add a BIN or best offer option to it. the idea is to have no BINs being requested no matter what value the item is.