Nirvana Is there a variant SHS Beautybloom?

[Luminary]

Soo...
I am interested in making a custom with alternating coral/peach hair, and while scouring the net (and maybe purchasing things when I shouldn't spend) I noticed something....
Beautybloom sometimes has hair the color of the first stripe in the 2nd set of Rainbows, or the same color as Wildflower (coral). However, sometimes she has hair the same color as Cherries Jubilee (peach). Does anybody have two to compare? On My Little Wiki she has peach hair in the loose profile photo, and coral hair in the MOC photo. It is the same way on Toy Sisters. I think she is painted as having Cherries Jubilee's color on the back of her card.

Which variant is more common? If you have her, which one do you have?

 

[darklys]

Mine has peach hair. I definitely like the coral look though!

 

[Tak]

Mylittlewiki says that her hair is supposed to be coral, so it may be the peach is faded. In the picture on there the one on card has coral and the loose one is peach. Just going off of mylittlewiki I would guess it’s just fading.
Note: I am not an expert and I’m not presenting this as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

 

[Luminary]

Mylittlewiki says that her hair is supposed to be coral, so it may be the peach is faded. In the picture on there the one on card has coral and the loose one is peach. Just going off of mylittlewiki I would guess it’s just fading.
Note: I am not an expert and I’m not presenting this as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

LOL, I understand....but peach is darker/richer than coral It doesn't seem to show in photos, but Beautybloom isn't less orange than Wildflower, just more pink. She's like bright orange with no relation to yellow. Or something, hard to explain.

Speaking of fading, I have a SHS Twinkler coming in the mail-My Little Wiki notes a variant with light gold curly hair instead of orange/dark gold straight hair. I looked back at the one coming my way-it has dark gold hair, but it is curly with the same curl pattern as the variant on My Little Wiki...but the tail matches the light gold color! We'll see when she arrives, but it seems Hasbro was inconsistent with the Sweetheart Sisters involving subtle variations, though not all wacky like the UK Princesses.

Maybe. Like Tak said this is just my observation and not the "nothing but the truth" thing. I love it though, and am really looking forward to this Twinkler with a very slightly different tail. Only I would feel bad wrapping it's mane around it's leg, it has to stay curly.

 

[Tak]

LOL, I understand....but peach is darker/richer than coral It doesn't seem to show in photos, but Beautybloom isn't less orange than Wildflower, just more pink. She's like bright orange with no relation to yellow. Or something, hard to explain.

Speaking of fading, I have a SHS Twinkler coming in the mail-My Little Wiki notes a variant with light gold curly hair instead of orange/dark gold straight hair. I looked back at the one coming my way-it has dark gold hair, but it is curly with the same curl pattern as the variant on My Little Wiki...but the tail matches the light gold color! We'll see when she arrives, but it seems Hasbro was inconsistent with the Sweetheart Sisters involving subtle variations, though not all wacky like the UK Princesses.

Maybe. Like Tak said this is just my observation and not the "nothing but the truth" thing. I love it though, and am really looking forward to this Twinkler with a very slightly different tail. Only I would feel bad wrapping it's mane around it's leg, it has to stay curly.

I’m excited to see your twinkler. One of my favorites! I’m a teensy bit hue blind. Especially with warm colors. I’m glad that there are people that can see the subtle differences.

 

[Luminary]

I’m excited to see your twinkler. One of my favorites! I’m a teensy bit hue blind. Especially with warm colors. I’m glad that there are people that can see the subtle differences.

So the first pic is the normal Twinkler from My Little Wiki:


Then there's the one coming my way:
Then the blonde, curly one from My Little Wiki:
The one coming to me from the front, looks like a curly:
And from this angle you can see the orange mane and blonde tail (the one in the mail):

It looks like the the tinsel is red in both the mane and tail, whereas it is supposedly pink in the blonde curly haired version. I don't know what to think, but if it is a "half-variant" of course I'll love her even more!

 

[Sassarazzmadazzles]

Personally,

I have not seen any differences in these ponies.

Ponies age different from each other with the conditions that they "live" in.

So there is probably many different things that will make a ponies hair seem a different color.

Also, lighting of a photo can change things

 

[Tak]

So the first pic is the normal Twinkler from My Little Wiki: View attachment 54366


Then there's the one coming my way:View attachment 54367
Then the blonde, curly one from My Little Wiki: View attachment 54368
The one coming to me from the front, looks like a curly: View attachment 54369
And from this angle you can see the orange mane and blonde tail (the one in the mail): View attachment 54370

It looks like the the tinsel is red in both the mane and tail, whereas it is supposedly pink in the blonde curly haired version. I don't know what to think, but if it is a "half-variant" of course I'll love her even more!

She’s beautiful either way!

Personally,

I have not seen any differences in these ponies.

Ponies age different from each other with the conditions that they "live" in.

So there is probably many different things that will make a ponies hair seem a different color.

Also, lighting of a photo can change things

I agree. I used to agonize about little differences (just another excuse to keep more!) but that was before I cut my collection down ab 90%.

 

[Skybreeze]

The Pretty Ponies line doesn't have any variations.

The same stock was used to produce the entire line thus we do not have variations as occasionally seen in other lines. What you (and others have noted) is simply aging and deteriorating of the colours and quality of the hair over the years. As @Sassarazzmadazzles mentioned how a pony was played with and stored plays a big part of how they will age.

 

[Luminary]

Peach hair does not "fade" to coral. coral hair does not change into peach.

As for Twinkler, I'm going by what it says on My Little Wiki.

 

[Sassarazzmadazzles]

Also,

If there is any variants of any ponies, it is noted on the wiki.

 

[Luminary]

Also,

If there is any variants of any ponies, it is noted on the wiki.

but the picture they use of Beautybloom that they say has "coral" hair is clearly a picture of a peach haired pony, not a coral haired one. that's if you look up "hair colors" in the search engine they show the loose one with Cherries Jubilee's color and call it coral instead of peach. However the coral haired one is shown MOC on beautybloom's page.

My little Wiki was made by humans, and therefore there are mistakes, oversights, etc.

 

[Sassarazzmadazzles]

Yes, I do know how to navigate the Wiki system and see where it does show her details.

But, ponies are still prone to fading and different results with how the pony is cared for.

You can also never trust a picture fully online due to every camera and computer/phone screen being set up differently, nothing will look the same to every eye.

There are also no variants within her line of ponies (Pretty Pony)

 

[Luminary]

Yes, I do know how to navigate the Wiki system and see where it does show her details.

But, ponies are still prone to fading and different results with how the pony is cared for.

You can also never trust a picture fully online due to every camera and computer/phone screen being set up differently, nothing will look the same to every eye.

There are also no variants within her line of ponies (Pretty Pony)

Well I see some with coral hair and some with peach hair. I promise I am not invalidating what you say for no reason, but I guess we'll just have to disagree, is that okay?

 

[Sassarazzmadazzles]

It is not that we agree or disagree, we are just trying to keep the information straight.

Misinformation causes confusion and we try to keep the MLPTP a creditable and joyful place to be

 

[Luminary]

Well, then, to keep the info straight, I'm sure you won't mind if I get back to this thread when my coral haired Beautybloom comes in and I take pics of her side by side with the peach haired one outdoors to show the difference. Those to colors do not change/fade into each other.

On Shimmerlocks these colors are called "cantaloupe" (coral), and "fruit jubilee" (peach). I've noticed they are both in the "orange" section, but fruit jubilee is also in the "pink" section. I'm not saying you don't know this, just saying I love studying color! I bet most MLP collectors are sensitive to color, aside from hair, and the wonderful fantasy world they come from, color is one of the great joys of MLP!

I was fascinated to find that the poetic description of shadows as "indigo" by writers and painters actually aligns with science and the way we perceive color, because we don't have a color cone for indigo so it looks like blue-black on the rainbow. Yeah joy is certainly not arguing, but passive appreciation. I will get back to you with pics of both Beautyblooms together with either swatches from Shimmerlocks, or hanging out next to coral haired ponies to show the difference, whichever you prefer. Promise I wouldn't knowingly spread misinfo. I love this site!

 

[Gingerbread]

As far as I know there weren't any special variations to the Pretty Ponys. Aside from the slight manufacturing variations that could be in all ponies. Perhaps a batch of hair was manufactured with a slightly different hue? Who knows, but I don't think it's enough data to pin point the exact scenario. Unless you were on the manufacturing floor back in in 1990 I don't think any of us can say we know anything for sure.

Looking at them, I would've assumed the coral hair turned to the more peach color over time, maybe a summer in a nice chlorinated pool or something but really who knows. I've seen slight differences in ponies over the years but unless there is a large group of them with a common trait that can then be further investigated it's just chalked up to minor manufacturing differences usually.

 

[Luminary]

When I search for her on ebay, etsy, and mercari I find both colors, but it seems the peach is quite a bit more common. I still believe it's a variant, but I'm unable to care about this discussion anymore. No amount of casual invalidation will steal my joy for ponies. @Gingerbread that is such a fun and beautiful sig! I've always wanted to make her into an Elizabeth Taylor custom! But I don't paint well, so what would the symbol be, if I can't capture the face? Eye of Horus (Cleopatra)? A TAF with eight marriage certificates?

 

[Tak]

As far as I know there weren't any special variations to the Pretty Ponys. Aside from the slight manufacturing variations that could be in all ponies. Perhaps a batch of hair was manufactured with a slightly different hue? Who knows, but I don't think it's enough data to pin point the exact scenario. Unless you were on the manufacturing floor back in in 1990 I don't think any of us can say we know anything for sure.

Looking at them, I would've assumed the coral hair turned to the more peach color over time, maybe a summer in a nice chlorinated pool or something but really who knows. I've seen slight differences in ponies over the years but unless there is a large group of them with a common trait that can then be further investigated it's just chalked up to minor manufacturing differences usually.

I destroyed a couple of the first wave adult sea ponies in my bestie’s in ground pool. I had sealight and she had seawinkle. Fast forward six years and two of those in storage in the high desert of the Sierra Nevada mountains and those ponies were barely recognizable <facepalm> my 5 year old self was not good to her toys. Luckily I did better with my real pony.

 

[Skybreeze]

When I search for her on ebay, etsy, and mercari I find both colors, but it seems the peach is quite a bit more common. I still believe it's a variant, but I'm unable to care about this discussion anymore. No amount of casual invalidation will steal my joy for ponies. @Gingerbread that is such a fun and beautiful sig! I've always wanted to make her into an Elizabeth Taylor custom! But I don't paint well, so what would the symbol be, if I can't capture the face? Eye of Horus (Cleopatra)? A TAF with eight marriage certificates?

You find both colours when you search for this pony (as stated above repeatedly) simply because of aging of the toys. There’s no “variant” of Beauty Bloom in the Pretty Pony line.

Over the last (nearly) 40 years collectors have seen these pigments in pony hair deteriorate over time. Some will appear lighter in hues while others darker. Sometimes the tone of the colour changes. This happens due to play wear, sun/water/humidity/elemental exposures, how a toy was stored over the years, if a toy has been restored (rerooted), etc. These simple things and many others factor into toy degradation over decades of being out of package and left to elements unknown.

For example we have Munchie here, she has the same colour of hair (according to Shimmerlocks and the DH matching guide) as Beauty Bloom. Look at the variations:


We have low light and bright natural light from Texas sun. And a MOC and a loose stock ponies one with lighter hair, the other with darker.


This has always been the way of being a vintage toy collector. Modern toys (yes, 80’s included) were never intended to stick around this long and be loved for this long. Things deteriorate over time, it’s our job as collectors to share this knowledge with newer or less informed members of the community so we can all learn and cultivate a plethora of knowledge. This is why the Wiki is open to suggestions by members of the community and why it’s been cultivated over many years by veterans of the hobby.

No one is here to “take away your joy” from MLP or colour theory. We are simply answer your question of “is there a variant” and the answer is simply “no.”

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