How do you root your ponies?

Twinkle-eye

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I have learned lock and loop, but am not very good at it. Using a rooting tool is so much faster. What method does everyone else use?

Does it matter to you how a custom or restore is rooted? Would that effect if you bought it or not?

I know this is all hidden inside the pony's head, I just tend to overthink.
 
I use a rooting tool with a needle. I knot the hair in the center to create a plug, and push that into the hole. I use glue to hold it all in place for good measure.

Personally for me, it doesn't matter how the hair is rooted as long as it stays in the head!
 
I use a rooting tool with a needle. I knot the hair in the center to create a plug, and push that into the hole. I use glue to hold it all in place for good measure.

Personally for me, it doesn't matter how the hair is rooted as long as it stays in the head!
Oh cool, I keep forgetting about that method! It looks really secure!
 
I use a rooting tool and thread some embroidery tread with a needle and tie it and for added measure I glue it all down after. I'm always paranoid about ponies loosing too much hair if glue starts to breakdown over the years so I feel better having that added thread in there. I really should start sending long term care instructions for my customs too but most of my customs have all gone to friends and people I know. So, I'm not horribly worried about it for the moment.
 
I use a rooting tool and thread some embroidery tread with a needle and tie it and for added measure I glue it all down after. I'm always paranoid about ponies loosing too much hair if glue starts to breakdown over the years so I feel better having that added thread in there. I really should start sending long term care instructions for my customs too but most of my customs have all gone to friends and people I know. So, I'm not horribly worried about it for the moment.
Yeah, I worry about it coming out too.

I love the new siggy!
 
I usually use the basic method with a rooting tool, I didnt realize you could knot it before rooting with a tool :eek: i havent had any issue tho with glue my customs from highschool are fine.. Granted not finished <_<"""..... i broke all the needles i had and gave up :rofl: Blank G3s are so harddd i could barely get the hair in the holes.
 
I usually use the basic method with a rooting tool, I didnt realize you could knot it before rooting with a tool :eek: i havent had any issue tho with glue my customs from highschool are fine.. Granted not finished <_<"""..... i broke all the needles i had and gave up :rofl: Blank G3s are so harddd i could barely get the hair in the holes.
Ugh I hate breaking needles! I find if it’s tight to get in the hole, I use a thumb tack to make the hole bigger, and the needle fits in. The hole tends to shrink up again to tighten up.

Of course, less hair gets in easier and less prone to breaking needles. You can always root more hair in the same hole
 
Ugh I hate breaking needles! I find if it’s tight to get in the hole, I use a thumb tack to make the hole bigger, and the needle fits in. The hole tends to shrink up again to tighten up.

Of course, less hair gets in easier and less prone to breaking needles. You can always root more hair in the same hole
Yea I tried that with the thick needle they include to widen hair holes but the hole would shrink up so fast I didn't have time to root the hair. Its some super springy pony plastic! :eek: I had to leave needles in the holes over night just so theyd stay open long enough to root a few.
 
The punch-needle method is really fast, but I kind of prefer a tidy interior that relies less on glue. So, I still use the anchor thread method even though it's more time consuming, because I have so many harvested donor manes to use, and they come out as loops like this. If your hair supplies are running thin, this method is nice because you can get extremely precise about final hair length when using loops as your inside ends. I often don't need to do any trimming when using a donor mane, which means less plastic waste.
Here are the images from the ancient tutorial I drew for folks back in 2001... (sorry about the quality, lol)
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The punch-needle method is really fast, but I kind of prefer a tidy interior that relies less on glue. So, I still use the anchor thread method even though it's more time consuming, because I have so many harvested donor manes to use, and they come out as loops like this. If your hair supplies are running thin, this method is nice because you can get extremely precise about final hair length when using loops as your inside ends. I often don't need to do any trimming when using a donor mane, which means less plastic waste.
Here are the images from the ancient tutorial I drew for folks back in 2001... (sorry about the quality, lol)

This is amazing! How do you remove a mane without cutting it?
 
This is amazing! How do you remove a mane without cutting it?
:: opens mouth, flood of instruction comes out ::

The basic method is always the same on a pony with the chain-stitched loop braid inside: find the end that the stitch completed on (on G1 ponies this is always the bottom of the neck) and begin yanking whole, single plugs in succession from that end. Each stitched plug of hair looped through the next, so if the last one is pulled, each adjacent plug can be pulled one at a time to free up the one that was stitched just before. You'll often see a G1 pony where the last plug or two is short or already missing because of the way this stitch can be pulled out (it usually indicates a mane that is going to come out more easily). Often there will be a glued wad of hair at the end, which was the only way the makers had to finish and secure the stitching.

I use a sturdy needle to part the hair plugs and separate them from each other. Sometimes they're distinct and this is easy, other times two or even 3 plugs seem to be mashed together as one, which is harder to interpret. The holes in the vinyl can be your guide. It will always be the hairs closest to the end that will be "unlocked," and a plug is always happiest to come out all at once. Wrap it several times around a finger or a smooth object like a sharpie pen and give a firm pull, holding all the fibers as one. When you've pulled out one clean bundled loop, it's a win!

Pull too few fibers and you get a snarl of loops out (with patience, you can still sort this snarl out). Too many and it won't go, because some of those fibers are actually the next plug over and still secured by the one you're working on. When having trouble, pull too few and either patiently sort these back onto a needle (see illustration from previous post) or discard them. Just remember if you're transferring a mane directly or removing it for deep cleaning the roots, you'll need to keep all you can, unless you have more fiber you can supplement with.

Then there is the issue of the glue itself. Some ponies got very little glue and plugs come out cleanly. Some were just crusted with glue and you have to use scissors and/or pliers to remove the blob of end-hair before plugs will start coming out. Most often on G1s, the glue has become brittle with age, and will break down into granules (so work over a surface you can clean). Sometimes you can encourage the glue to break down further by squishing the interior braid with a blunt hard object. This can break some fibers, though.

If glue granules are stuck to your loops, feed all the fibers of a loop onto a needle, hold the free ends taut, and scratch the snugly wrapped loops with a fingernail to get the debris off. This is also the way to clean mildew residue from the roots of a grody pony that you really want to restore.

If loops are coming out broken, keep going to see if this stops higher up the mane and gives you any you can salvage.

If you're tugging and tugging and a loop just won't come out, it may be partially locked into the parallel braid, which means the other row was stitched last and should be pulled first. Try working on that row and see if it helps. You can alternate rows if that cooperates better.

Many of you will read this and go "NO THANKS" and return to scissoring off manes for total replacement, LOL. You do you!! I'm fortunate enough to have time to do this kind of detail work and I really like reusing things that are still good. And it's just neat to know it can be done, if you want to! I like how familiar it's made me with the various levels of ease or difficulty the stitchers had with installing these manes. Some are clean and beautiful, some are bushy and glued to heck.
Give it a try, see what you get. If you just can't deal with reusing the hair, your pony will still be bald and ready for whatever method of rehair you like. :)
 
:: opens mouth, flood of instruction comes out ::

The basic method is always the same on a pony with the chain-stitched loop braid inside: find the end that the stitch completed on (on G1 ponies this is always the bottom of the neck) and begin yanking whole, single plugs in succession from that end. Each stitched plug of hair looped through the next, so if the last one is pulled, each adjacent plug can be pulled one at a time to free up the one that was stitched just before. You'll often see a G1 pony where the last plug or two is short or already missing because of the way this stitch can be pulled out (it usually indicates a mane that is going to come out more easily). Often there will be a glued wad of hair at the end, which was the only way the makers had to finish and secure the stitching.

I use a sturdy needle to part the hair plugs and separate them from each other. Sometimes they're distinct and this is easy, other times two or even 3 plugs seem to be mashed together as one, which is harder to interpret. The holes in the vinyl can be your guide. It will always be the hairs closest to the end that will be "unlocked," and a plug is always happiest to come out all at once. Wrap it several times around a finger or a smooth object like a sharpie pen and give a firm pull, holding all the fibers as one. When you've pulled out one clean bundled loop, it's a win!

Pull too few fibers and you get a snarl of loops out (with patience, you can still sort this snarl out). Too many and it won't go, because some of those fibers are actually the next plug over and still secured by the one you're working on. When having trouble, pull too few and either patiently sort these back onto a needle (see illustration from previous post) or discard them. Just remember if you're transferring a mane directly or removing it for deep cleaning the roots, you'll need to keep all you can, unless you have more fiber you can supplement with.

Then there is the issue of the glue itself. Some ponies got very little glue and plugs come out cleanly. Some were just crusted with glue and you have to use scissors and/or pliers to remove the blob of end-hair before plugs will start coming out. Most often on G1s, the glue has become brittle with age, and will break down into granules (so work over a surface you can clean). Sometimes you can encourage the glue to break down further by squishing the interior braid with a blunt hard object. This can break some fibers, though.

If glue granules are stuck to your loops, feed all the fibers of a loop onto a needle, hold the free ends taut, and scratch the snugly wrapped loops with a fingernail to get the debris off. This is also the way to clean mildew residue from the roots of a grody pony that you really want to restore.

If loops are coming out broken, keep going to see if this stops higher up the mane and gives you any you can salvage.

If you're tugging and tugging and a loop just won't come out, it may be partially locked into the parallel braid, which means the other row was stitched last and should be pulled first. Try working on that row and see if it helps. You can alternate rows if that cooperates better.

Many of you will read this and go "NO THANKS" and return to scissoring off manes for total replacement, LOL. You do you!! I'm fortunate enough to have time to do this kind of detail work and I really like reusing things that are still good. And it's just neat to know it can be done, if you want to! I like how familiar it's made me with the various levels of ease or difficulty the stitchers had with installing these manes. Some are clean and beautiful, some are bushy and glued to heck.
Give it a try, see what you get. If you just can't deal with reusing the hair, your pony will still be bald and ready for whatever method of rehair you like. :)
Wow! Thank you!
 
Thank you!! Yes, many harvested manes are in my bag of pony hair, lol!! And many customs and restorations done with transferred manes! Even fakies can be harvested!
Omg bag of pony hair! Thats as bad as my pony bucket!
 
Omg bag of pony hair! Thats as bad as my pony bucket!
LOL! Well at least I've recently gone through it and separated the colors more thoroughly into little reused bead bags, haha! So it's a bag of bags of pony hair. But it did used to be an actual gallon-sized bag of hair. :rofl:
 
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