New Luna Toys Theorys/Hopes

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Well remember how they constantly made pink Celestias until Cadence started coming around now they have come out with a couple white Celestia, talking, brushable, and blind bag, Anyways I think this happened because Cadence was too close to pink Celestia in color. Now that Twilight is a princess she looks almost exactly like Princess Luna's old figures colors, so do you guys think they will finally come out with accurate color Lunas from here on out such as Talking, fashion style, brushable, and blindbag? I think they will because otherwise "kids" will get confused. Luna is dark blue not purple! I really hope they do because I want accurate Princess Luna figures!

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What would making Luna show accurate give Hasbro? She's already a blue-purple, while Twilight is more of a red purple. Kids will be able to tell the difference between the two, so I don't think there's any reason for Hasbro to change her color. If anything, they might not make her as often, since having four princesses will be more difficult to combo them in a pack.
 
I think they will because otherwise "kids" will get confused. Luna is dark blue not purple! I really hope they do because I want accurate Princess Luna figures!

Why is kids in quotations? I don't get it.
But I think you need to give children more credit. Cadence isn't that similar. Frankly Twilight's color every time I see it in real life is odd (not that it doesn't match, which is why she is my least favorite) and again not like the first Luna. I think the change has more to do with the little kids that were screaming about why isn't Celestia white too. So if kids don't like the color of Luna and Hasbro hears about it enough, then they might do a more cornflower color of her. Or they just might go and change the colors in the show itself. It wouldn't be the first time they've changed aspects of characters on their shows to match the toys. Multiple seasons in would be an odd time but, they could. I like my purple Luna. But, purple and grey ponies have always been my favorite unlike most little girls I would assume.
Still, I would buy a blue Luna too probably if she was really butt kicking cool.
 
Kids is in exclamation marks because sometimes i feel like hasbro only acknowledges them rather than the fans, collectors, and bronies. Even though I bet half of mlp stuff that sells is not for kids. Yes I do understand that's who they are made for. Anyways yea I think the purple one looks fine but it's still season 1 luna and I want a season 2 and 3 luna. Sometimes I think hasbro is lazy to be completely honest, first off look at the variety of characters in toys in g1 not to mention the high quality. I feel like they can do better but don't, like the vectors on the packaging really reusing the same pictures over and over. So many artists out there could create beautiful art for the packaging. Like why the heck is cadence on a season 1 disc in the complete season 1 DVD?! She's not even in it! Should be nightmare on the disc. Sorry about the rant, I do appreciate the fan collections I think they are the greatest things has to has made this generation. So much to say haha!
 
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>Kids is in exclamation marks because sometimes i feel like hasbro only acknowledges them rather than the fans, collectors, and bronies.

That's because kids are the CORE MARKET of MLP. And yes, Hasbro is lazy this generation, because lazy saves money and it still sells to kids.

The "lots of not for kids" stuff that you see being sold is licensed merchandise for bronies, since Hasbro knows that they'll sell, but they'd rather focus their own efforts on kid stuff. Let someone else (like Funko) make brony-specific stuff.
 
>Kids is in exclamation marks because sometimes i feel like hasbro only acknowledges them rather than the fans, collectors, and bronies.

That's because kids are the CORE MARKET of MLP. And yes, Hasbro is lazy this generation, because lazy saves money and it still sells to kids.

Actually, I've rejected merchandise for not being "show accurate" ever since I can remember. (Not that I didn't have an imagination. Heck, the way I played with toys was anything but accurate) Maybe I'm just special, but this makes me think that toy designers need to stop pretending kids lack attention to detail. Then again... maybe they know better than me with their research and do the things they do for a reason.

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With that said, I have a funny confession that's a bit embarrassing to admit.
A few weeks ago, I've somehow had my Fashion Style Clestia mixed up for for Cadence.
*Derp*
Don't ask me how, though. I have no excuses aside from the fact that I own two pink alicorns and I was tired. :rollingeyes:


Also, how many of you know that Celestia is actually a pale pink on the show and not really white?
 
Kids is in exclamation marks because sometimes i feel like hasbro only acknowledges them rather than the fans, collectors, and bronies. Even though I bet half of mlp stuff that sells is not for kids. Yes I do understand that's who they are made for.

Welcome to collecting. Hasbro is acknowledging us more now than they ever have before. I would argue that collectors make up a tiny majority of who is buying toys these days.

Sometimes I think hasbro is lazy to be completely honest, first off look at the variety of characters in toys in g1 not to mention the high quality. I feel like they can do better but don't, like the vectors on the packaging really reusing the same pictures over and over. So many artists out there could create beautiful art for the packaging.

Yes, G1 did have variety and better quality. But here's the deal: Hasbro charged $5 back then per pony. Hasbro still charges $5 per pony. The cost of manufacturing them hasn't gotten any cheaper. If you plug the numbers into an inflation calculator you get $5 in 1986 (picked randomly) is equal to $10.51 today. So yeah, if Hasbro charged twice the amount then you might get a better pony.

And the recolored ponies on the packaging? Yeah, it's lazy. But you have to realize that A) packaging is more of a pain to design than you realize and B) the graphic designer(s) that make the packaging for MLP probably make the packaging for a bunch of other stuff, along with trade-show materials and who knows what else.
 
Welcome to collecting. Hasbro is acknowledging us more now than they ever have before. I would argue that collectors make up a tiny majority of who is buying toys these days.



Yes, G1 did have variety and better quality. But here's the deal: Hasbro charged $5 back then per pony. Hasbro still charges $5 per pony. The cost of manufacturing them hasn't gotten any cheaper. If you plug the numbers into an inflation calculator you get $5 in 1986 (picked randomly) is equal to $10.51 today. So yeah, if Hasbro charged twice the amount then you might get a better pony.

And the recolored ponies on the packaging? Yeah, it's lazy. But you have to realize that A) packaging is more of a pain to design than you realize and B) the graphic designer(s) that make the packaging for MLP probably make the packaging for a bunch of other stuff, along with trade-show materials and who knows what else.

Yeah, G1 did have a lot better quality in the toys, like they really could do better, it is all about the money.. Oh not to mention that the cutie marks haven't been on both sides in two generations REALLY!!! It's not that hard.. So Lazy..

Let me tell you I'm a graphic designer and I would gladly make all the packaging for each pony its like what 18 ponies a year lol, it takes about two hours for me to create a my little pony vector!
 
Personally I like the way Luna looks so I hope that they don't change her. lol
 
Yeah, G1 did have a lot better quality in the toys, like they really could do better, it is all about the money.. Oh not to mention that the cutie marks haven't been on both sides in two generations REALLY!!! It's not that hard.. So Lazy..

Let me tell you I'm a graphic designer and I would gladly make all the packaging for each pony its like what 18 ponies a year lol, it takes about two hours for me to create a my little pony vector!

Umm... I'm also a graphic designer too, so yeah, that argument still doesn't fly with me.

Yes, it is all about money. Hasbro is a business. Their goal is to make money. Kids aren't quite as picky as collectors, so Hasbro continues to make what they do.

Also, they're not called "cutie marks" when referring to G2. Possibly G3, but not G2.
 
Umm... I'm also a graphic designer too, so yeah, that argument still doesn't fly with me.

Yes, it is all about money. Hasbro is a business. Their goal is to make money. Kids aren't quite as picky as collectors, so Hasbro continues to make what they do.

Also, they're not called "cutie marks" when referring to G2. Possibly G3, but not G2.

I don't understand what you mean, what I'm saying is it would take a day to make several new packaging images, when the toys sit in store for a year, so I don't understand why they reuse the same over and over. Aso if you are a graphic designer why did someone else create your signature? Cutie marks, symbols, same difference.
 
Brony Galore, mom no hime can have whatever they want for their signature. The picture was made for them, and they like it, so it's their signature. There's nothing wrong with that.

You said it would take you two hours to make a vector. How much would that cost at, say, $7/hour (assuming you're ONLY being paid minimum wage?) $252 for all 18 characters. Of course it's going to cost a lot more than that, as they'll be professional graphic designers who are also going to be doing tests to make sure that they're printed color correct while being printed THOUSANDS at a time. And it's more than just the pony vector, it's the entire package, which will include the vector on the back, the text, and the phrase "pony wears the saddle" or whatever.

That's a lot to do. That's going to take longer than 2 hours for each of the 18 figures. And EACH ONE will have to be tested to make sure they are printed the correct colors, too. Picking colors is more than just picking what's pretty, it's making sure that whatever printer you're using can physically make that color.

Each printer has its own inks, which each have their own formulation. Just because printers use CMYK doesn't mean that HP's K is the same color as Kodak or Xerox's K. Each company uses its own pigments. Even different series are different colors.

I've worked on presses and mixing inks for years, and it's not easy. Making 18 packages is already a huge deal. G1 got away with this by having the same pictures on the package and only changing the name on the front and the story on the back, which is only changing WHAT the text is, not the size, color or location. But G4 changes a lot more, which takes a lot of work.

Don't even get me started on the die-cutting of the little front part of the G4 packaging.

So by color-swapping the vectors, they're saving themselves countless hours of testing and time, which saves Hasbro thousands of dollars.
 
Brony Galore, mom no hime can have whatever they want for their signature. The picture was made for them, and they like it, so it's their signature. There's nothing wrong with that.

You said it would take you two hours to make a vector. How much would that cost at, say, $7/hour (assuming you're ONLY being paid minimum wage?) $252 for all 18 characters. Of course it's going to cost a lot more than that, as they'll be professional graphic designers who are also going to be doing tests to make sure that they're printed color correct while being printed THOUSANDS at a time. And it's more than just the pony vector, it's the entire package, which will include the vector on the back, the text, and the phrase "pony wears the saddle" or whatever.

That's a lot to do. That's going to take longer than 2 hours for each of the 18 figures. And EACH ONE will have to be tested to make sure they are printed the correct colors, too. Picking colors is more than just picking what's pretty, it's making sure that whatever printer you're using can physically make that color.

Each printer has its own inks, which each have their own formulation. Just because printers use CMYK doesn't mean that HP's K is the same color as Kodak or Xerox's K. Each company uses its own pigments. Even different series are different colors.

I've worked on presses and mixing inks for years, and it's not easy. Making 18 packages is already a huge deal. G1 got away with this by having the same pictures on the package and only changing the name on the front and the story on the back, which is only changing WHAT the text is, not the size, color or location. But G4 changes a lot more, which takes a lot of work.

Don't even get me started on the die-cutting of the little front part of the G4 packaging.

So by color-swapping the vectors, they're saving themselves countless hours of testing and time, which saves Hasbro thousands of dollars.

I understand it's a huge deal and takes a long time to complete packaging and getting everything perfect, but I'm just saying they should be more accurate with updating them,rather than being lazy about it, I mean like Luna still has her episode 1 vector, before her magic was restored.. makes no sense.. For as long as they take to release new figures they have a whole year basically to be working on the next years packages trust me they have time, they just choose not to, so they save money.
 
I don't understand what you mean, what I'm saying is it would take a day to make several new packaging images, when the toys sit in store for a year, so I don't understand why they reuse the same over and over. Aso if you are a graphic designer why did someone else create your signature? Cutie marks, symbols, same difference.

I guess I never realized that as a graphic designer I'm required to design everything for myself! Thank you! Apparently my (paying) graphic design job isn't enough- I need to design ponies too. Consider me learned.
 
Quite honestly, we should be happy that the individual ponies have, more or less, stayed at the same price point throughout the generations.

The same can't be said for their cousins in the Transformers franchise. The cost of producing them has gone up enough that they've had to bump up the prices on the various size classes.
 
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