Question about that 'other' post

Heh, has anyone read "turmoil in the toybox"? Its about 80's cartoon and there occult worshiping satanism and stuff. Its by some EXTREME religious fanatic.
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Yeah, and SpongeBob's gay. Someone's always unhappy with something, aren't they?

:roll:

:lol:

-Kelli
 
XD Hippies, yes.

I always assumed they respected the rainbows and used them when needed, but I didn't think they flat out WORSHIPPED them. o_O And I was thrown off by The End of Flutter Valley, too, I admit. I think they just respect the sunstone, since it warms their valley and are hippies, to put it bluntly. XD

I don't think the ponies worship anything, nor do I believe there is any sort of God in Ponyland. I never really bothered to wonder how the whole thing was created. >__> I'm sure there are certain ponies that DO have their beliefs, but I think on the whole there is nothing there. XD

As for the Furbobs, I think they believe different things than the ponies and have their own culture, same goes with the bushwoolies, grundles, dragons and other creatures that reside in Ponyland.
 
I don't like how appreciation seems to be turning into "worship." I think they are similar, but not the same thing. Years ago sailors sang songs about being grateful to the moon and stars because they helped them to navigate. Today we have many holidays to appreciate and celebrate certain people, things, and events. I don't think that means we worship these things, but rather that we take the time to be grateful and appreciate them.

Honestly, I feel that this is an attempt to prove that Hasbro is marketing to religions besides Christianity. I have yet to come upon an instance, though, where they've blatantly involved any religion besides Christianity in any of their pony lines.
 
Posts like this make me glad to be back to the online world after a short hiatus/family bonding type trips. :D

I think religion only belongs in ponyland if someone wants it to be. My g3 ponies have a Pagan-like worship system based on "The Mists of Avalon"...but my g1 ponies are loosely Christian...celebrating holidays like Christmas and Easter. *shrug*

As for the cartoons, I doubt the Flutters were meant to be any religion, they just had respect for the earth which can translate into any faith path. So far the only obvious religious refrence I've seen in the MLP line has been Bright Night and her little prayer. *shudders remembering the voice* And they didn't even label the pony as religious or Christian.
 
Mandi OLP said:
I don't like how appreciation seems to be turning into "worship." I think they are similar, but not the same thing. Years ago sailors sang songs about being grateful to the moon and stars because they helped them to navigate. Today we have many holidays to appreciate and celebrate certain people, things, and events. I don't think that means we worship these things, but rather that we take the time to be grateful and appreciate them.
Honestly, I feel that this is an attempt to prove that Hasbro is marketing to religions besides Christianity. I have yet to come upon an instance, though, where they've blatantly involved any religion besides Christianity in any of their pony lines.
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Mandi for prez.
 
But since they're saying the sun is the source of hope, laughter, and love, I would say that the flutter ponies do indeed worship the sun
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they could be referring to seasonal affective disorder. :p
 
But since they're saying the sun is the source of hope, laughter, and love, I would say that the flutter ponies do indeed worship the sun]/quote]

I guess this means I worship a TON of things.
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I always thought that to ponyland was open to interpretation. But then, I originally started collecting when I joined LM's fanfiction mailing list, and my favorite part of exploring the copmmunity was the variety of worlds that people had created. My favorite was definately Fizzysqurrel/Murinae's world in Promises in the Wind, and also LMs crazy world ^_^.

In my version of ponyland, the ponies worship the rainbow. Yes, worship, not appreciate.

Here's their creation story, if anyone's interested:
http://www.angelfire.com/weird/stormslegacy/mylittlepony/stories/story1.html

I also have their beliefs on what happens after they die:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/836414/1/

As well as several of their legends scattered throughout the files on my pooter.

I don't see what the problem is or why anyone would get upset if the flutterponies worshipped the stone or not. I think it's great if they do, as it adds more depth and interest to the story to incorporate a culture for them. It's not like your kid is going to go worship the sun after watching it. Why should everyone have the same beliefs? Why should it be a problem at all? It is an interesting thing to discuss though; I also disagree with the people that because they are ponies we shouldn't care. Well, I do care, just in a fascinated-with-the-depth-one-can add-to-the-story kind of way.

What I do find interesting is that Rosedust refused to help the ponies when they came to her after their land was smoozed. What does that tell you about her as a leader, and also of the differences between Flutter and regular pony culture? Yes, It's a simple children's story, but I love taking the roughly hewn version Hasbro presented and filling in the gaps and details through my writing. And I love reading what others have done with it too.

I do wonder Hasbro will shape these ponies and whether or not they'll have a TV series and how it will be (like the original or more like the Tales episodes?)

~Moondust (please forgive the typos, my keyboard is acting strange tonight...I think theres a faulty connection...)
 
I love your story, Moondust! :D

My "regular" ponies have a very loose theology towards the rainbow (they will exclaim "Great Rainbow!" when startled and generally "believe" in the rainbow, but in a very nonspecific way, and they'd be hard pressed to explain what exactly the rainbow does if anyone asked them.)

The flutter ponies worship the sun.

I can never figure out what to do with the wingers, but someday I'll get their society ironed out. ;)

The "original" G3s have an empire across the ocean where they have a polytheistic religion similar to the Greeks or Romans, with pony-shaped gods who are powerful, but also can be petty and quarrelsome at times.

The pegasus G3s I'm still pondering; I'm glad Hasbro gave them their own island, it brings to mind all kinds of interesting ideas. :D

What I do find interesting is that Rosedust refused to help the ponies when they came to her after their land was smoozed. What does that tell you about her as a leader, and also of the differences between Flutter and regular pony culture?
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And Rosedust doesn't even think about her answer before replying. So my flutter ponies are isolationists with Rosedust as their absolute ruler. Their utter flutter power is useless individually, but incredibly strong when used by a group of flutters, much like one bee being a nuisance and a large swarm of bees being a menace. But their power IS mainly defensive, if you think about it, so they just stay in their valley and "don't get involved."

Yes, It's a simple children's story, but I love taking the roughly hewn version Hasbro presented and filling in the gaps and details through my writing. And I love reading what others have done with it too.
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Yes, I love seeing original takes on the canon. :)

~LM~
 
I can never figure out what to do with the wingers, but someday I'll get their society ironed out.
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Did you ever read Fizzy's version? It was incredible, the detail put into it. The Windywings gain their power from the night and winter, and the summer wings from the summer and day. One of each is elected to rule for a time, and exchange leadership depending on the current time. It was beautiful though, I just loved how she presented them. I was so in awe, and the pictures that her writing created when she showed some of their rituals was amazing. ::sigh:: if only she didn't take everything down. >_<

~Moondust
 
Since I only had three wingers I always played it like their kind were all killed in a giant plague but those three. And then they journeyed into my Ponyland where they'd become feral, stealing food and terrorizing my other ponies, until they were caught and civilized.

I guess I don't really feel offended by the "religion" thing. The only real evidence I've seen was the prayer and frankly, I'd heard that prayer as a child and my upbringing was as secular as it gets. I always thought of it as a general prayer - it's not the same to me as if it were talking about Jesus Christ or something. When they start putting proselytizing tracts in the boxes or putting crosses as symbols, then I'll agree they've taken it too far. I think they leave it open to let us do what we want with them.
 
That is a wonderful story, Moondancer! I love both of them.

My ponies all worship a sort of pantheon of gods and goddesses. I haven't come up with all of them yet, but I'm working on them. The Rainbow of Light is a manifestation of one god, and Star Catcher is a goddess and has the Twelve Birthstone--or Signs--under her power as her attnedants, one for each sign of the zodiac.
 
I think it's called an imagination.

Heck, I know my ponies have their own culture, religion, society and ethics. LadyM's theory of the Flutters and how their isolation has affected them is BANG on in my opinion. I LOVE worldbuilding and the MLP world (Ponyland, the friendship gardens, Ponyville, whatever or wherever) is so rich and full of ideas, it seems like such a waste to just say "Oh! They're just ponies!" and let them ride around on scooters all day.

Sel - who certainly needs to rework her old Dark Pony Saga, to include these little G3 minions.
 
Wow, I love hearing all the completely different takes on Ponyland and everyone's individual herds. *sits down with her chin on her hands and listens some more*

Such diversity!!

Hey, just like the real world! Only...more harmonious. -.-
 
Heck, I know my ponies have their own culture, religion, society and ethics. LadyM's theory of the Flutters and how their isolation has affected them is BANG on in my opinion. I LOVE worldbuilding and the MLP world (Ponyland, the friendship gardens, Ponyville, whatever or wherever) is so rich and full of ideas, it seems like such a waste to just say "Oh! They're just ponies!" and let them ride around on scooters all day.
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I totally agree! It's a very big waste when people are like "they're ponies. Get over it." Well, when I was a kid, my ponies had a very in-depth culture, and as an adult, their culture is even more complex ^_^. I had forgotten to post my Memorian to Englsh dictionary with those 2 fics, lol. I'll have to find the link. (yes, my ponies have their own language. Who says they have to speak English all the time? Gets rather boring if you ask me.)

I'm glad you like them Nethilia, though my name's Moondust (that's okay, everyone seems to mistake me as Moondancer. If I wasn't attached to this name I'd change it ^_^).

Since I only had three wingers I always played it like their kind were all killed in a giant plague but those three. And then they journeyed into my Ponyland where they'd become feral, stealing food and terrorizing my other ponies, until they were caught and civilized.
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Oooo I love post-apocalyptic societies! That sounds similar to my G3s. The first came from a society that was ravaged, with Rainbowdash as their leader...but I haven't yet figured out any of the others into the story. I like your Pantheon, that sounds nifty!

Hmm...discussing all of this stuff about flutters gives me an idea. ::goes off to write::

~Moondust
 
They didn't worship the sun, they had the sun stone, which kept the valley green and lush.
 
:shock:

I showed some of my old MLP videos to my 6-year-old niece. She didn't run outside and start chanting in the sun, so I think we're okay here.[/i]
 
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