What exactly is Salon 40 Creme?

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I need to remove some spots / "pony cancer" off a group of unfortunate ponies, and the mlp preservation site mentioned using something called Salon 40 Creme.

I'm in Australia, and all the online listings for Salon 40 Creme near me, describe it as
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MILANI 40V Creme Peroxide 990ml Hair Care Color Cream Developer- Salon BARBER​


Used by professional hairdressers, the Milani Violet Crème Peroxide is ideal for colour processing and bleaching purposes. The creamy formulation will give the hair even and lasting coverage while achieving the desired colour. Supporting a violet tone, the violet colouring aids in toning the hair while developing the colour.

Available in 3.5Vol, 5Vol, 10Vol, 20Vol, 30Vol and 40Vol.

1000ml
"
(there's a listing without the violet tone, but only the violet one had this description)

or

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Hi Lift Professional Salon Creme Peroxide For Hair 0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 40% CHOOSE​


Volume: 40 VOL - 12%


Available in 3.5Vol, 5Vol, 10Vol, 20Vol, 30Vol and 40Vol.

Features:

- Professional salon peroxide
- Smooth consistency
- Easy to mix
- Quality guaranteed
"

Am I looking at the right thing? Is there any ingredients that must be avoided if I see it written on the bottle?
 
Hair bleach. I dunno whether you should use it or not. But I'm sure someone with more experience will give you the 411.
 
Tak said:
I would see what @Skybreeze and @MustBeJewel have to say… I seem to remember it coming up that using certain creams permanently damages the plastic.
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Benzoyl peroxide (zit cream) is the one to stay away from. It causes bleaching that cannot be salvaged. It was a very popular treatment about 10-15 years ago when pony collectors who were also doll collectors insisted that it was safe for ponies because it worked on dolls. Damage begins slowly lightening and ends up like this (pic taken from the MLP Restoration Tips & Tricks FB group):

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Hair developer cream is a newer technique that many are using. The cream contains hydrogen peroxide, which has an entirely different chemical reaction. The long-term effects are unknown, but so far seem to be safer. Collectors have been soaking in liquid H2O2 for years prior. If anything, you just need to repeat the process from time to time if the spots return. Also, it can make playset plastic more brittle, so use with caution on those.

Here's a tobacco-damaged Dream Beauty that I whitened with a 50/50 mix of water and liquid hydrogen peroxide. This is a before and an after (two eight-hour soaks in direct sunlight):

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starbritesprinkles said:
Benzoyl peroxide (zit cream) is the one to stay away from. It causes bleaching that cannot be salvaged. It was a very popular treatment about 10-15 years ago when pony collectors who were also doll collectors insisted that it was safe for ponies because it worked on dolls. Damage begins slowly lightening and ends up like this (pic taken from the MLP Restoration Tips & Tricks FB group):

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Hair developer cream is a newer technique that many are using. The cream contains hydrogen peroxide, which has an entirely different chemical reaction. The long-term effects are unknown, but so far seem to be safer. Collectors have been soaking in liquid H2O2 for years prior. If anything, you just need to repeat the process from time to time if the spots return. Also, it can make playset plastic more brittle, so use with caution on those.

Here's a tobacco-damaged Dream Beauty that I whitened with a 50/50 mix of water and liquid hydrogen peroxide. This is a before and an after (two eight-hour soaks in direct sunlight):

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@starbritesprinkles, your restoration looks gorgeous! How did you protect the pink and blue paint on the body, as well as the mane and tail, during the 50/50 hydrogen peroxide soaks? Does the solution not affect these areas?
 
oliviafmbt said:
@starbritesprinkles, your restoration looks gorgeous! How did you protect the pink and blue paint on the body, as well as the mane and tail, during the 50/50 hydrogen peroxide soaks? Does the solution not affect these areas?
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I didn't cover the paint or hair. She was already faded before that, so I figured I couldn't make her worse. And since I don't plan on getting rid of her, I can restore her better when I have time. Peroxide (OxiClean too) can damage glitter symbols and Twinkle Eye finish, possibly hair tinsel too. So exercise caution with those ponies.
 
Cozytoyhoard said:
RetroGeek Crafts uses it pretty often. They link their materials in the description.
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Yay! I didn’t know there were more fans of her channel on here! She has a discord that I frequent a lot too. Pony fans from all over there.

Jewel has an entire section about the cream peroxide, the Arena does as well, & so do many pony restoration websites - it’s safe.

You’re looking for 40V - 12%
Here’s a picture of a popular one:
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You can easily find this on Amazon or most beauty retailers:

Here’s a scientific paper talking about the breakdown between the two peroxides & how it relates specifically to ponies:
https://files.secure.website/wscfus...de-comparison-document-by-aimee-trail-fb.docx

More Sources:
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& (as stated in a prior post)
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Use this type of peroxide cream along side a UV Light or direct sunlight.

Please Note: Certain areas of pony’s may need to be covered, hair will need to be covered, cream will need to be washed off and reapplied frequently, not all ponies can be Sun Faded using this method: https://www.mlptp.net/index.php?threads/list-of-ponies-safe-and-not-safe-to-sunfade.119867/

Additionally, there are popular threads specific to this exact sun fading solution right here in the Restoration Forum.
Refer to these threads before proceeding with this method.
 
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starbritesprinkles said:
I didn't cover the paint or hair. She was already faded before that, so I figured I couldn't make her worse. And since I don't plan on getting rid of her, I can restore her better when I have time. Peroxide (OxiClean too) can damage glitter symbols and Twinkle Eye finish, possibly hair tinsel too. So exercise caution with those ponies.
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Ok, thanks!
 
I've been fading some badly nicotine stained childhood ponies with glitter symbols. I didn't cover the symbols, spread the 40V peroxide cream over the glitter, and didn't worry about it.

It didn't do anything to the glitter.
 
ParadiseDreams said:
That’s good to hear, I was wondering what would happen if you didn’t cover them.
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Glitter isn't a difficult fix, aside from typical loose glitter mess. But if anyone is unsure, start with a common pony or one that already needs more restoration.

I had nothing to lose. My Starflower was...green.
 
I have been using regular ultra fine glitter. Some from Michael's and some from Christmas craft kits I found at the thrift store for a few cents.
:lolpony:

I use matte modge podge as glue.

Others have used glitter paints with fine suspended glitter.

All of these are cheap enough to experiment with. If we lived closer I would gladly split glitter since I have too much.
 
Alstroemeria said:
I have been using regular ultra fine glitter. Some from Michael's and some from Christmas craft kits I found at the thrift store for a few cents.
:lolpony:

I use matte modge podge as glue.

Others have used glitter paints with fine suspended glitter.

All of these are cheap enough to experiment with. If we lived closer I would gladly split glitter since I have too much.
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Modge podge glue is a good idea to use actually, I don't think that yellows over time.
I have scrapbooking fine glitter I think. The only thing would be to look close at the glitter used by Hasbro to see if it's a colored glitter on some of the ponies. Some of their glitter is clear though I think.....I have to pull out my ponies to be sure of all this but I am at work right now, :lolpony:

If you lived closer we could actually share spa day and resources, it would be fun.
Collectors never live close to one another....maybe it's better though too, it minimizes the competition at the local thrift stores :rofl:
 
ParadiseDreams said:
it minimizes the competition at the local thrift stores :rofl:
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Two collectors show up and are on opposite sides of a shelf with a pony on it. They square off like it's a western movie duel and the western duel song plays (theme from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, to be exact).

More seriously though, my local Goodwill use to get a lot of good stuff. Now they send anything of value to Richmond where it is assessed for online sale. If you, or @Gingerbread find yourselves at the big Richmond Goodwill, check for ponies. They may be there in various conditions.
 
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