G5 Would Ponies be the cause of global extinction?

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There have been confirmations that g5 takes place in the future of g4, where it says that the era of g5 is now “ancient Equestria”. Now, given the premise of g5, which states that magic is now nonexistent between the tribes of ponies, this concerns me greatly. Why? Well, you see, the implications of the premise suggest that the tribes have been separated for a while- at least long enough to have fostered doubt and mistrust among each of the pony races- earth, Pegasi, and unicorns, and enough time for that hate and mistrust and fear to evolve into effective propaganda- as we saw in the movie poster backgrounds of the g5 clips, and in the very real manifestation of that fear in the entire seaside town of earth ponies to be sent into a panic by the sight of one unicorn.

Now, if the tribe separation and lack of magic between them have indeed been established for a long time, this leads me to wonder….how in the wide world of Equestria is there still life? How are the ponies, and plants and animals still alive? How is there still weather, and day, and night? We’ve seen the ponies literally in charge of everything that functions in their world, in g4- to feeding animals, building their homes, and ensuring they migrate through magic, to changing the seasons through magic, altering the day and night cycles through magic, and ensuring crops grow…through magic. Perhaps all this is detrimental to the world in general, because it is so heavily reliant on their magic to operate, and if…in Izzy’s own world, it suddenly “poofs” away, and stays gone for hundreds, thousands, or however amount of years for g4 to be considered “ancient” by the g5 timeline, then how has the world functioned? How has it sustained life of every living thing? How has it managed weather and day cycles, without pony magic? By all intents and purposes, the entire world of g5 should be looking like the lifeless barren desert wasteland that Twilight showed Starlight Glimmer, in “the Cutie Remark- part 2”!

I’m sure life would continue on as normal (with the exception of day/night) for the non-pony lands beyond Equestria, since their regions are not controlled by and entirely dependent on pony magic and thus would not be effected by the disappearance of it. Would the pony lands become a barren dead zone because their world has been stripped of all its natural forces and replaced by an entirely magically dependent system for so long?

How have not just pony races, plants and animals, but non pony species been surviving in g5 without a magically maneuvered sun and moon? How have they not cooked or frozen to death, if magic just poofed out of existence and been that way for who knows how many generations? The only way I can think of is if the world “righted” itself, to function in a more natural way, much like how the g4 Everfree forest (and non pony lands) operate- with animals and plants taking care of themselves. And weather being maintained in its own. Perhaps also, the sun and moon being drawn back into their normal gravitational orbits?

How do you guys think life has been sustained in G5’s Equestria (and by extension, non pony lands) without magic existing in their world?
 
What if the sun and mood moved by themselves the whole time and all that Celestia and Luna can move them was just some kind royal tradition thing that actually did nothing.

Also I thought that they didn't control the weather, they just made it do what they wanted, and that they just helped the animals.
 
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I think that your other two threads address all the issues in the show. Also, G4’s backstory has the 3 tribes separate in the past. That's the story in hearthswarming eve. They had weather before.
 
I think that your other two threads address all the issues in the show. Also, G4’s backstory has the 3 tribes separate in the past. That's the story in hearthswarming eve. They had weather before.
I wasn’t really addressing the issues in the show in the past two threads, other than the topic of if the show of g4 was ruining the toyline from that gen onward. I think that this is a more specific topic than that and addresses a different issue that does not relate to the toyline, but to the plot line of the g5 animated series, that doesn’t fit into the discussion of my precious topics.
And addressing your secondary point, I k is that while the three tribes were separated in G4’s pre-Equestria’s founding, they still has magic active. And even in the Hearth’s Warming play, the unicorns still raised the sun and moon. The issue here is about g5 and magic being removed in its entirety, and how the world still manages to function and life still continues to exist without it
 
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What if the sun and mood moved by themselves the whole time and all that Celestia and Luna can move them was just some kind royal tradition thing that actually did nothing.

Also I thought that they didn't control the weather, they just made it do what they wanted, and that they just helped the animals.
I don’t know if it was just tradition or not. I only say this because it seems that g4 canon already established that unicorns raised the celestial bodies before Celestia and Luna were trained to by Starswirl. And I’m curious if this has been going on since the beginning of time, if the celestial bodies (weather, seasons, etc) are capable of returning to normal without pony intervention, and just how it works in g5 without magic, or even if we’ll get any kind of official explanation.
 
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It would probably just move normally, like in the real world. After all, there is weather in Everfree Forest which naturally changes. It is only pony-controlled in places where there are ponies are of the main populous.

Winter Wrap up, literally states earth ponies don't use magic.

Celestia and Luna raising and lowering the sun/moon is to show their "powers" over other "lesser" ponies and thus being "all powerful beings". Luna can literally control one's subconscious by entering dreams, which is a pretty powerful magic that could be detrimental to pony kind. Celestia is the peace keeper a diplomat of sorts. Having the powers to move celestial bodies allows them to control the length of each night and day and supplying natural life over the lands in their rule.

Pegasi work with weather patterns because it makes sense for a flighted being. Being able to manipulate clouds/winds and thus the weather. Earth ponies are said to have more than average strength, makes sense Pegasi would need to be lighter for to maintain flight and unicorns have always been dainty in lore. We see unicorns using magic, but it's to literally do basic things every other creature does without using "magic". Nothing to the skills of Celestia, Luna, Cadance, Twilight, Sunset Shimmer or Starlight Glimmer. The latter two who were seemingly on their own way to being crowned, but both not showing any interest in having the crown or ruling Equestria post reformation. So, seemingly post Twilight's rule, if no suitable replacement was found and the elements of harmony were lost (with the parting of each creature who embodies each element). I see no reason for things to go back to being "wild" like the Everfree forest. It certainly wouldn't be the end of times for ponies.

But then. I really think this is really overthinking into a children's show that had zero intuition of having any kind of greater purpose other than to sell toys to children and collectors alike. Had FiM not of blown up the way it did with the "Brony" community, it's very likely the previous generation would not play any role in the G5 franchise. But being a company Hasbro knows what they've got and they will hold on to that audience as long as possible as well. Which is what I think @Tak was leaning towards with your previous two boards. ;) Ultimately, it doesn't all need to have a meaning or make sense. So long as "the man" can continue to sell toys and associated merchandise to children and their parents.
 
It would probably just move normally, like in the real world. After all, there is weather in Everfree Forest which naturally changes. It is only pony-controlled in places where there are ponies are of the main populous.

Winter Wrap up, literally states earth ponies don't use magic.

Celestia and Luna raising and lowering the sun/moon is to show their "powers" over other "lesser" ponies and thus being "all powerful beings". Luna can literally control one's subconscious by entering dreams, which is a pretty powerful magic that could be detrimental to pony kind. Celestia is the peace keeper a diplomat of sorts. Having the powers to move celestial bodies allows them to control the length of each night and day and supplying natural life over the lands in their rule.

Pegasi work with weather patterns because it makes sense for a flighted being. Being able to manipulate clouds/winds and thus the weather. Earth ponies are said to have more than average strength, makes sense Pegasi would need to be lighter for to maintain flight and unicorns have always been dainty in lore. We see unicorns using magic, but it's to literally do basic things every other creature does without using "magic". Nothing to the skills of Celestia, Luna, Cadance, Twilight, Sunset Shimmer or Starlight Glimmer. The latter two who were seemingly on their own way to being crowned, but both not showing any interest in having the crown or ruling Equestria post reformation. So, seemingly post Twilight's rule, if no suitable replacement was found and the elements of harmony were lost (with the parting of each creature who embodies each element). I see no reason for things to go back to being "wild" like the Everfree forest. It certainly wouldn't be the end of times for ponies.

But then. I really think this is really overthinking into a children's show that had zero intuition of having any kind of greater purpose other than to sell toys to children and collectors alike. Had FiM not of blown up the way it did with the "Brony" community, it's very likely the previous generation would not play any role in the G5 franchise. But being a company Hasbro knows what they've got and they will hold on to that audience as long as possible as well. Which is what I think @Tak was leaning towards with your previous two boards. ;) Ultimately, it doesn't all need to have a meaning or make sense. So long as "the man" can continue to sell toys and associated merchandise to children and their parents.
Thank you for expressing that so eloquently. I mucked it up.
 
Alright. I confess. *I* run Pony Planet. It's in a pocket universe I keep in my panty drawer. Every now and then I shake it like a snowglobe and cause a few typhoons, just to keep 'em on their hooves. Otherwise I just let 'em live their little lives and think they're more than just a speck in the cosmos. Their magic is nothing more than figments of their imaginations caused by eating too much sugar from Pinkie's cupcakes.
 
It’s fun to overthink things like this and usually I would but for now all I gotta say is that title threw me in for a loop. For a split second I thought this post was going to be about the MLP franchise leading to the extinction of the human race.
 
It’s fun to overthink things like this and usually I would but for now all I gotta say is that title threw me in for a loop. For a split second I thought this post was going to be about the MLP franchise leading to the extinction of the human race.
I did as well. I imaged an army of Terminator style cyborg ponies herding humes into little cages then dipping them in boiling oil.

Which would be epic!
 
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It’s fun to overthink things like this and usually I would but for now all I gotta say is that title threw me in for a loop. For a split second I thought this post was going to be about the MLP franchise leading to the extinction of the human race.
I…..um, what? How? Please explain this to me.
 
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I now demand an apocalypse caused by ponies!



I…..um, what? How? Please explain this to me.
With a tread title like "Would Ponies be the cause of global extinction?" I can see how that would cause thoughts of this world dying, because when people hear global extinction they usually think of the planet we're on not the planet in a TV show.
 
I did as well. I imaged an army of Terminator style cyborg ponies herding humes into little cages then dipping them in boiling oil.

Which would be epic!
As far as ways for the world to end, evil pony armies would probably be the cutest way to go lol :lolpony:
 
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