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Exactly what she said. Thanks, LJ, for summing it up so clearly.
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Exactly what she said. Thanks, LJ, for summing it up so clearly.
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This is one of the biggest disappointments to me, the way they have excised everything remotely "horsey" about the line. Yes, G1 ponies did have some anthromorphic tendencies, like making cakes, singing songs, and talking, but they were still definitely horses. You look at the old backcard stories and they are GALLOPPING, WHINNEYING, PRANCING.
The whole reason that pony + pastel colors worked to begin with is that girls like horses. (For example, there are multiple "series" books focused around horses, targeted at girls.) Now Hasbro has not only rejected the slightest bit of horsey behavrior ("Ponies aren't ponies, they are six year old giiiirls!" :doh5B15D
, but they don't even resemble horses any more.I think they are going for a "baby doll" look with the grotesquely enlarged heads and the pug dog noses, but the appeal of MLP was while you did have baby ponies who could be "ready for a nap" or put in a wagon, you also had the adults who were ready for adventure and excitement. That was why I loved the line as a little girl. That and the magic/fantasy element.
Whether these ponies sell well or not, I feel badly for little girls, whose choices are limited to a cotton candy world where nothing ever, ever goes wrong and everyone is ZOMG best friends forever (current MLP and Strawberry Shortcake) or a world of "adult" fashion with pouty lips and come-hither eyes (Bratz.) What happened to the in-between stuff? You know--the toylines with characters who are adult in the sense that they're independent and can take on challenges and will fight for what they believe in, not adult in the sense that they obsess about their wardrobe? (The only mainstream girls adventure-based toyline I can think of offhand is Dora the Explorer. I guess maybe Barbie to a certain extent now that she has movies.)
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I love these pics. I wasn't overly keen on the revamp of the logo until I saw the boxes as a whole. They have a better feel to the packaging.
Can't wait to see them on the shelves. I'm really psyched for them.
Can't wait to see them on the shelves. I'm really psyched for them.
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Here's a shot that shows size comparison from the "regular" sized ponies to the newborn cuties and the styling Pinkie Pie, who I detest, but not as much as I detest the interactive Starsong. Eugh!
Actually, hasn't the Bratz line been discontinued? I thought they lost in the battle with Barbie. http://www.mlptp.net/forums/friends-discussion/56829-bratz-dolls-banned.html?highlight=bratz
Even if the Bratz were still being made, I'd like to think you're right, and that MLP would have higher sales than Bratz.
Someone else said they hate the packaging. Agreed, sista! I do nooooot like it! At all. No color. No rainbow. No nothing. NEVER NEVER. I'm so .... not getting these.
It's very obvious they are actively competing with Bratz, though.
I think they are even a good alternative to Bratz-oriented girls because of their new design. They look like they can beat the competition.
Actually, hasn't the Bratz line been discontinued? I thought they lost in the battle with Barbie. http://www.mlptp.net/forums/friends-discussion/56829-bratz-dolls-banned.html?highlight=bratz
Even if the Bratz were still being made, I'd like to think you're right, and that MLP would have higher sales than Bratz.
Someone else said they hate the packaging. Agreed, sista! I do nooooot like it! At all. No color. No rainbow. No nothing. NEVER NEVER. I'm so .... not getting these.
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they scare me. ponit blank. thee things are so hideous and scarey looking as pony-ponys. maybe saing they were aliens would help. but as ponys? chibis scare me litterally ad these things scare me to death! and the fact that they redesigned the PVs to match them saddens me. i really loved the PVs as they were. the Starsong doll scares me too-it looks like it's half my sister's height and the styling Pinkie looks like a really baaaaaaaaaaad fakie-she has no neck!!
the only good thing they have her eare the NBC. i like that there are going to be more of tem in singles; i can't afford the playsets. but even the diff play sets are good. and that they're doing all the chars in the diff molds. that i like.
everything else=nightmares. they're just seriously ruining this for everyone. i'm very sad that this is all that wil be available to peoples. just means i'll be spending alot more money on the internet after june i guess...
just saddening really
they better not decide to make boys now. ra only knows what they'd look like in this style.
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and the styling Pinkie looks like a really baaaaaaaaaaad fakie-she has no neck!!the only good thing they have her eare the NBC. i like that there are going to be more of tem in singles; i can't afford the playsets. but even the diff play sets are good. and that they're doing all the chars in the diff molds. that i like.
everything else=nightmares. they're just seriously ruining this for everyone. i'm very sad that this is all that wil be available to peoples. just means i'll be spending alot more money on the internet after june i guess...
just saddening really
they better not decide to make boys now. ra only knows what they'd look like in this style.
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Yes,YES!! -nods- That's it!!
You couldn't have hit the nail more squarer on the head!
MLP should at least resemble a pony, and kid's shouldn't be push into preadulthood(teens) so fast by toy companies, instead of putting makeup on an chasing boys at 13/14 years of age (which is still too young), they will be doing it at 7 an 8 - I have always had this opinion with baby dolls - babies with babies...
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LadyJasmine said:[quote="TwilightStarshine]Meet the new Pinkie Pie. :486:
Pinkie Pie looks STUNNING!
See, that's precisely what it is about the new moulds that set my teeth on edge. Bratz is *not a good example* for girls, (and why are they still on the shelves? I thought they were disbanded??) and the fact that MLP - which is supposed to be an innocent toy that promotes creativity and imagination is going down the same "we've got to be cutesy and wear make-up and be overly thin to be cool" superficial line makes me kind of ill. They're losing sight of the point of the line. The more kids toys' are made wearing make-up and doing grownup or teenagery things then the more pressure kids are going to feel to be like that...children are growing up fast enough, and I'm extremely disappointed in Hasbro for furthering the trend...
Ponies should be horses. And horses don't wear make-up and have heads bigger than their bodies.[/quote]
I still see a very innocent looking horsedoll, in very animated horselike poses I should add. Yes, they have oversized heads and eyes, as do most toys of today. It's a fact Bratz and other anime styled toys sell. Just because MLP has started to use a few similar ingredients of Bratz, doesn't make them the same. They look like Ponyville and LPS, who in their turn look like anime characters. Even G1 ponies put on some eye shadow now and then, even G1 ponies had mold changes. G1 SHS molds are extremely thin compared to the chubby regular G1 ponies. I don't think the new chibis are that thin compared to the older G3s. At best, they look like smaller versions of the adult ponies- juveniles, perhaps?
LadyM ~ I see your point as far as the more horselike qualities of G1 go, but honestly, the appreciation of horselike qualities already ended with G2 back in 1997. In all honesty, I think the poses of the singles look very animated. Cheerilee is prancing, as well as Sweetie Belle who reminds me of an actual horse, turning while running. Even the regular walking mold (Pinkie Pie) looks like horselike pacing to me. I understand people don't like the chibi style, but their poses look promising. At least the little things look like they can GALOP a couple of miles. *o*
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i think the plush star song is creepy and also the dress up ponies and that slh cheerilee im not liking very much either
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Not really my thing here. My daughter (who is probably more in the target audience then I am) wasn't too thrilled about them either and she usually likes big headed toys (she really likes LPS). I mostly customize MLP anymore, and I'm not sure these are going to customize all that well.
Not really my thing here. My daughter (who is probably more in the target audience then I am) wasn't too thrilled about them either and she usually likes big headed toys (she really likes LPS). I mostly customize MLP anymore, and I'm not sure these are going to customize all that well.
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Awwww hehehe I think they're cute. They've grown on me. I didn't like them at first but I dig 'em now ; )
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The new ponies are SO CUTE! Sorry mates who don't like them, but I can't wait to own most of them. It would have been better if Hasbro is willing to venture beyond the core 7 characters but mold wise I find them adorable. They look like baby ponies, and since we have the "adults" already, I'll these their kids. So there'll be mum, daughter and newborn daughter - WHEE! ^^Thing I'll probably pass on is perhaps..........he Starsong plushie. She's creepy close-up with the flailing limbs and molded eyebrows. I don't know why, but just dont feel good when I see her. lol Probably will give the super long hair Rainbow Dash a miss too. Don't like too much hair.
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I think they look like parakeets. I'm not sure if it's a necessarily a good thing, though.