There's a "Columbian Boy pony" on ebay...can anyone give me more info?

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i saw that post. i was thinking about posting it here, but it didnt really relate to this thread. it is sad to sell off ponies from your own collection so you can afford to buy a so called nirvana pony that either isnt legit or not available anymore. its so sad. i too would be very ticked off. i'd be like you owe me those ponies back. get them back to me for your greedy error.
 
well... it related like 8 pages or so ago, because that was the dishonesty thing Skeen was warning about... but then it turned into scrutiny over whether mr. pink is mr. stink.
 
Took me a while to catch up on all the happenings, all I can say is this is awful not only because precious sentimental ponies have been sold but there also seems to be no reprecussions. At the moment the situation looks to hit boiling point.
 
i know lars doesnt come on here as much as he does on the arena, but i am surprised that he hasnt come across this thread. i wonder how he would defend himself to us. since it seems most of us are against him. i know his english must not be that good, he has a lot of typos, getting his wording grammatically correct. so maybe there is a miscommunication going on with him, since there have been so many questions asked and comments pointed out to him that he seems to avoid or doesnt fully understand what we are asking.
like the oil concept. i rubbed an oil on it to preserve it. later saying i put vegetable oil on it. i dont think oil on any pony is good for it. like food oil can go bad and spoil the bodys plastic. possibly help cause the plastic to break down or cause mold. i wonder if he thought that was a good idea, but later being told its not, which is why he said i cleaned it off.
i think we would be better off having gloria, his girlfriend who finds these ponies for him in columbia, be in charge in selling these ponies. she was more into the fair than he was, posing for pics, possibly answering questions about the ponies regions. not sure if she has a better english vocabulary than larry does, but im sure she would be more truthful and not into all this for the pony, but to see that someone would give a poor neglected pony love and a good home. most of the ponies were found in the bad parts of columbia, i recall reading his past threads of his finds.
anywho, i think we should let buyers be aware of the authenticity of the pony, that it may not be in its original condition. or just confront him and possibly ban him from the tp if he keeps up the charade that he is selling his own private collection of rare ponies in their original condition and not to make a lot of money to scam a buyer out of money and stuck with a baity pony not worth that amount and is possibly restored.
 
well I mean this thread has quickly spread like wildfire... If his last login was anything more than a week ago this wouldn't have been much to come across. but if he sees it at any time now... we'll probably get to see him defending himself vehemently firsthand.

on the oil... I seriously think it was some bs explanation as to why the symbols were shiny...
actually I think I'm going to go look this up, since I've never heard of putting vegetable oil on 20+ year old vintage toys to "preserve" them...

brb!
 
Oil is good to preserve wood (like cutting boards, furniture pieces, etc), along with oil being a good thing for gears, keeping things cooler when dealing with machinery, warding off rust (I'm not referring to pony's booties lol), frying chicken, etc..

I'm not sure about oils on paint itself. Some car waxes are oil based so I really can't say if it's good or bad. Oil may break the plastic down but you'd have to have time to experiment. We at work don't use oil on our plastic parts but we use a silicone spray which is OK for the plastic and less runny. I'm not saying people should spray silicone all over their ponies.

ETA: People use oil all the time to use as a preservative for food also (example pepper shooters) he probably figured if it works well with food, it could work on a pony.
 
well this article says technology is being developed to MAKE plastic from veggie oil... nothing about preserving toys with vegetable oil...
Polyurethane Plastics From Canola Oil

this article is actually a patent for a product made from anhydrous isopropanol, a silane, halogenated hydrocarbons and a silicone which is to be used to clean and preserve vinyl phonograph records and the tape from audio and visual casette tapes. little outdated imo... nothing about preserving toys with vegetable oil...
Solution for cleaning and preserving plastic and metallic surfaces - Patent 4544413

this one I thought was going to lead me somewhere... message board style question about preserving Japanese plastic food (I thought this would mention veggie oil but alas, the responses just say to clean the plastic regularly)
Preserving plastic food from Japan? - Not About Food - Chowhound

article about plastic art and whether or not it lasts forever (nothing about preservation... but it mentions barbies... which could help me)
A generation of plastic art objects are degrading like overused Tupperware. Can they be saved? - By Sam Kean - Slate Magazine

*sigh* crap this is just a book excerpt...
Saving stuff: how to care for and ... - Google Books

interesting doll preservation article
About Doll: Preserving and Caring For Antique Dolls

my findings so far... it seems that the best way to preserve collectible dolls is to (oh snap) put them in a glass case to protect them from dust, and keep them out of the sunlight.
I have yet to find anything about smearing vegetable oil on the plastic to preserve them... but I am not done yet!!!

hmmm...
this is about making a barbie cake with a Mylar balloon stuck on it with (drumroll) vegetable oil! and making scone with berry (drumroll) preserves! LOL!
Barbie Party
nothing so far on preserving them though!

WELLLLL... I've searched up and down google for the tiniest mention of vegetable oil being used to preserve plastic on a toy and I got NOTHING.
 
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( mentioned back in this thread) The fair was in May, so if only one Mr Pink was left..... then my question now is whether Mr Pink from the fair is the one on ebay........ See CC's pics in this post:
There's a "Columbian Boy pony" on ebay...can anyone give me more info?
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This is what seems the most likely to me. Like I said, while Jewel's picture made the one at the fair look orange, he was most definitely PINK. Mr.Pink from the fair seems to match up pretty nicely with the one on eBay. I am of the opinion that it's the same pony.
 
Ok, I have a new message from him. I told him that I am a collector and I know what I am doing. that I also so his pictures from NV, and told him there is no way you can have a near mint pony like that from columbia. I also told him, if he did restore a pony its not worth as much as you think. this was his reply.


"Or maybe you dont have the ability to see the diffrence between (2) pony's exactly. Only thing I have done to this pony was brush and apply some oil based plastic conditioner. No hair has been repleced or no dete]ails have been touched... You will 100% be proven wrong very soon in the near future."


Is it a threat? lol. should I be scared. haha. Im done emailing him. He isnt very nice, to prove me wrong he could have sent the pics. lol.
 
Very strange... i dont know why someone would wanna clean it up with something like that o_O Very bizarre. I would not risk it... and i am doubting it will reach its reserve.
 
I've emailed Larry through ebay as a question. I was trying to be polite to get a decent answer out of him.

My question through ebay:

Hi :)
I just had a question. Was this pony rehaired with new hair or does he have original hair? If possible could you take the head off and provide pictures of the inside as proof? I know it's a little difficult to manipulate the camera to get it to take a pic but I'd like to see on the inside how the tail is tied and the inside of the head where the hair line is (pics would need to be very clear for this task). Thanks so much :)
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His answer back to me:

Dear pikabubba,

No this pony was not rehaired.. it is origional. I will not detach the head. If you have doughts please dont bid on this item.. it will only be your loss. Sincerely Larry
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I've written this response in return:

Larry, there was no need to be rude (saying it will be my loss). All I did was ask a simple question. As a seller you should be a little more respectful towards potential buyers/bidders. Removing a pony's head will not harm it and it would prove to me and others that it was not a rehair. If you refuse to remove the head, then that shows you are hiding something. That would make people NOT want to bid and would in the end...be YOUR loss, not mine.
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His reply back

Thanks for your response.. I am very worried people are thinking I am restoring pony's. Second I have never taken the head off a pony..
I will attemp this now.. to help clear this up. Please send me your personal email address... (email addy edited out) Sorry for my short response
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For his sake (and no I'm not taking sides) maybe he can prove that it's not a rehair at the least.
 
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satinslipper said:
I wonder why someone is asking about hair color matches..... for Mr Pink?
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That was me asking for color matches and I was asking because I can't afford to actually purchase a Colombian pony. After seeing the pink Daddy in person at the Fair, I decided to make a custom of him for me. It is no secret I have a great amount of love for furry foot boys.

My custom is not done but here he is in progress.

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I do NOT restore Nirvana ponies ..in any way. I own one Nirvana pony and it is not a boy or a Colombian.
 
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RavenclawPrefect said:
That was me asking for color matches and I was asking because I can't afford to actually purchase a Colombian pony. After seeing the pink Daddy in person at the Fair, I decided to make a custom of him for me. It is no secret I have a great amount of love for furry foot boys.

My custom is not done but here he is in progress.

I do NOT restore Nirvana ponies ..in any way. I own one Nirvana pony and it is not a boy or a Colombian.
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Hi Denise! :) You know it's actually crossed my mind to make some Columbian customs for myself.. they're cool to look at and to have, since the real thing is absurdly expensive. I guess as long as they're never passed off for the real thing, there's no harm in it. Some of those color combos are awesome...

Random question--did you take an existing Daddy Apple Delight and paint over him? Because from a customizing perspective, being able to see the trees still through the paint is a pretty crafty way to make sure the trees are in the right place when you repaint him :) Just wondering, I can't tell from the pics. And I want to see him when you're done! ;)




On another note, ugh, the shiny pony seller from long ago... what a mess. I'd bought a Fizzy for my friend, and the pony came in a baggie with some mysterious oily liquid POOLING at the bottom corner of the baggie! Then they denied it! Sure enough, the oily stuff was hiding some serious flaws with the pony... I was not pleased, especially because it was too late to find another one by my friend's birthday. Grr.

As far as using oil to preserve them... makes no sense to me. Maybe someone can explain it, but I don't get it at all. :headscratch:
 
Is it bad that I thoroughly enjoy reading drama threads like these?
I'm watching all the threads at once.

And this is kind of "off-topic but not", but:
We found these ponys door-door.. searching in the very poor parts of the city. We searched with the poor people selling items dug out of the trash.. selling these items on the sidewalk for food.
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I wonder how much money lars gives those poor people on the streets.
I know Columbia is a completely different culture in every way shape and form, and I've had quite a few friends from Columbia. It just saddens me to think that lars is probably giving them $2 and then running away to the U.S. to make hundreds of dollars off them.

I don't know about you, but if these were legit ponies and I was making so much money from them SOMETHING would go back to Columbia. Be it a donation to a school or shelter or orphanage or... anything really.
And I am NOT a charitable person.

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I dont restore pony's... I have no interest to restore pony's and sell them as origional. I have some origional hair from Colombia and would like to find a person who could restore pony's for me... but only if it would be at a profit. You see I am not a collector; I am a business person.
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Because THAT'S an intelligent thing to say when people are accusing you of restoring ponies to make money and you're denying it -_-
 
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I wonder how much money lars gives those poor people on the streets.
I know Columbia is a completely different culture in every way shape and form, and I've had quite a few friends from Columbia. It just saddens me to think that lars is probably giving them $2 and then running away to the U.S. to make hundreds of dollars off them.

I don't know about you, but if these were legit ponies and I was making so much money from them SOMETHING would go back to Columbia. Be it a donation to a school or shelter or orphanage or... anything really.
And I am NOT a charitable person.
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As bad as I feel for the poor people who get $2.00 for a pony worth over $1000, I know I and some others would happily run off with a MIB rapunzel found at a charitable thrift store for 25 cents.
 
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and ALL he keeps saying to defend his claim of not restoring the pony is "I am incapable"

See he's telling the truth (maybe for all we know he is capable)
But if he isn't capable then it's true when he says so... But it's not the whole truth and nothing but the truth, your honor! I object! Sustained! Go directly to jail do not collect 200 dollars!
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LMFAO!!!!!! Do Not pass go!
 
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satinslipper said:
HarmonyShare: Jewel took pics at the fair, and the pony doesnt look like the one on ebay,
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Yes, I know that Jewel got some pics at the fair. I thought I remembered someone else saying that he didn't like pics of the ponies though....
 
Well, after reading through this, I can't imagine a collector would risk buying from him. Seems he is just in it to make a buck (not that is wrong in itself) but he is scamming collectors to make said buck and that is wrong. He gets defensive when asked to prove something, although I have yet to read a successful completed transaction. I personally won't be buying my ponies from him, actually at this point, I would not buy a $2 pony from him. In these communities, if you do not have trust....you have nothing.
 
Oils are bad. Oils are bad for toys. I don't know about vegetable oils, but I figure it's the same. Not only does it break down paint... and probably plastic. Plastic is porous and will take on some of the oil. I have a feeling that boy is very slick, and needs a bath, even if he is original.
 
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