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babysnuzzle said:
Personally i think bratz is part of whats wrong with the young kids of today. 7-12 year olds playing with these, frankly !@#$ dolls is what i feel to be the main reason that teen pregnancy rates are soaring, along with the highly sexed new videos, especially seen in hip hop (when did 50cent last release a song that wasn't sexually explicit!, and he has a young fan base)
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I actually agree to some extent but I think it's a case of art mimicking life. I hate this trend of kids growing up way too fast. When my sister was in primary school they mocked her at age SIX for playing with my little pony. Bratz are just there to cater for the children who are having to grow up way too quickly to fit the world around them. It's probably impossible to prevent that kind of development now because things have changed a lot since the eighties. But to me Bratz dolls epitomise the nasty element of the school 'popular' crowd - the kids who'd pick on you for wearing your tie wrong or not having the latest shoes. In short they popularise everything that's wrong about being a young girl, rather than promoting the stuff left that's right.

Wandering back on topic, I don't think there is a dearth of UK collectors. When I began at this game online, there was me, there was Lily, Selena and maybe a couple of others. Lynx was about, I think, but I can't draw any more names specifically to mind. That plus a few ebayers represented the community's UK contingent.

Now there are hundreds of UK collectors. There are enough to populate a highly busy UK list, there are a huge number on this board and even more buying on ebay. (Just stop and watch the figures on Ebay.co.uk and you'll see how many pony bidders are actually British.) Proportionally speaking, I think that it's the same quota as the US. Just the US percentage is gonna be a whole lot bigger numerically.

And to get back to the original point, I don't think ponies are necessarily suffering from the Bratz dolls. Actually, I don't think the one impacts on the other much at all. But in this area at the least they seem to have big issues selling Bratz dolls. They're always on offer and clearance recently (when six months ago they were the biggest thing). Kids have phases and when that toy is no longer cool they move onto something else.

There are plenty of kids buying ponies, far as I can see. Sometimes in this area stocking is ahead of the game, but sometimes also old stock sits around and doesn't sell - kids already have those ponies and don't want them over again. I think maybe that gives the idea that ponies aren't so popular - but soon as something "NEW" comes out in the line it tends to sell.

Taffeta
 
If MLP arent selling well, are you sure it isnt your area?

I know around here we are slow to get onto new stock and are rather slow (the newest stuff we have is what Argos is selling), but I put it down to MLP being not popular around here, not in general. I know many other collectors have faster shifting stores in their area.

I have only seen a kiddie buy a toy in any store and that was around christmas (when her parents were buying the dance studio from woolies).
 
Not all girls like bratz dolls. Some girls like princess dolls some girls like My Little Ponies some girls like action figures.

My cousin likes them all. And to be honest I wouldn't be able to afford a bratz doll. They are more expensive than Barbie. Barbie used to be the most expensive doll there was.

Bratz dolls may be big now, but like Beanie Babies and POGs they will be forgotten and Barbies, Breyers and My little ponies will prevail.

In my area, my, my little ponies really get picked through.

And with how economy is going, more little girls parents aren't going to be able to afford Bratz dolls. And they will be looking for barbies, princess dolls and My Little Ponies will be looked at differently.
 
Taffeta said:
to me Bratz dolls epitomise the nasty element of the school 'popular' crowd - the kids who'd pick on you for wearing your tie wrong or not having the latest shoes. In short they popularise everything that's wrong about being a young girl, rather than promoting the stuff left that's right.
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That's how I feel too. And the outfits . . . I'm truly shocked by some of the most recent ones in particular, on the Bratz Babyz. Babies in "sexy" clothing? Including leather mini-skirts and fishnets? Ew ew ewww!

Anyway, I don't think MLP has to worry about Bratz. They are more expensive, marketed towards older kids (although lots of older kids like MLP too), and as someone else mentioned they are human toys compared to animal toys, where Hasbro reigns supreme. MLPs do great in my area.

It does make me sad that so many people--including Hasbro and some parents and kids--feel that MLPs are ONLY for very young age groups, though. All the time on Amazon.com reviews I read, "Even though I'm ten years old, I love MLP!" You are TEN! There should not be an "even though" in there!

~LM~
 
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Ponies have been around for many,many years.
Bratz have not.
they might not be selling to kids, but they are to the collectors.Hasbro should gear them towards the collectors because to the kid, its just another thing for them to put under the bed. :roll:

/no offense, because I'm someone will find somthing wrong with my reply :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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to lady G.

the price of MLP G3's today are cheeper than when the G1's in the later 1987. to 1992 were priced at £5.99 if I rember correctly as I have a good memory so my mum. all way's keep's saying to me.

but you have to rember that the G1's came with a brush or comb and a ribbon and /or some other accessory that came with them.

G3's only come with a brush so their for they are cheeper that's why they sell here in the uk for £4.99p .

unless you want a G3 pony. that comes with extra's like the pony fashions ponies. that come with brush outfit, hair accessory and shoes.
their for they cost £7.99p.

to every one else. :)

I have been in a Entertainer toy shop 2 times in every month so far. and I have been down the Ile of where the MLP G3's are. and hardly any of the MLP's are sold down that ile. I find my self all alone in that ile where the MLP's are no yong girls in the MLP ile at all when ever ive gone in to Entertainer.

their has only been one occashion where I was not the only one hoping to buy a MLP G3 pony .

but the girl's mother. said to the girl (you already have a my little pony and you don't play with it).

so you see the interest in MLP is weekerning realy :(

here in the uk. may be not if your in the US .
but where I live which is Nottingham. ponies are not that popular here compeared to the Brat's Doll's that are around.

in the Entertainer reasently I went to they were having a Special offer again. this time on the pony fashions Sunny Daze pony. and the pony fashions Sparkle work's pony to.

which befor I could not have due to the code on the price sticker they had which matches the red card thing under neath the pony shelf.
not matching it.

but this time it did match the red card thing and so I brought 1 pony and got the other free. as that's the deal Entertainer are doing at the moment.
also I found that the ile where the mlp's are. were soon going to be took over by the Brats doll's. and may be the MLps that were down that ile moved or may be on clearence sale who knows ?
what will happen when i next go in their they could be on clearence or just moved to some else in the store some where not so popular. :(

yes and I to have been to woolies to buy ponies from their and I have seen a Dream design pony which I got which was Paradise palms who was in a squashed box.
when I brought her unfortunutly that could not be helped I surpose in the shop. the pony was and is ok luckerly in one peice.

but in woolies they did have some old scooter ponies left on the shelves. and whilst I was in their down their MLP ile. I was not a lone all though no one apart from my self was looking at the MLP's.
and the brat's doll's were next to the MLP's in woolies and their were yong girls taking intrest in them and also looking at me choosing a MLP from the shelf next to the brats.

also where I live I do have a T.R.U but it's a mile away in some open space park area so it's far to get to as I don't drive and their is no bus that goes near the place. :(

but If i do go their it's on rare occations by car which my dad drives me their as it's the only way to get to TRU.

also thank's for your imput's on my topic . :)
 
I don't see any appeal in Bratz dolls. They are REALLY ugly. I can't undertstand why girls like them. I onmly liked the japanese stuff they came with. And that was it!
 
Pony Rule....!!! Bratz Drool, and make me puke....

I thought barbie was bad for advertising the anerix look. Thin is in. Bratz is a gazallion times worse, had you seen their waste, even way thinner than barbie.

Plus the fact that in order to put on new boots or now a new head. Her head comes off, and her feet comes off, Muliation .And barbie had to become a part of the image of choped off feet with my secne Dolls.

And their outfits look to me, like the teenager or porstie look.

The lips on My Scene, and Bratz is sick. At least the original barbie lip look was kind of normal. Not blown up like some prostie baloon.

Baby bratz got nail polish on their fingure nails, and big fat lips, not to mention the teen look or prostie look.

Looks like that they are trying to sell se_ to the young generation. How dumb can people get.

But, brats have more clothing than barbie, Give them all the clothing you want. that is not going to hide those fat lips, makeup, Stick bodies, or the fact that in order to change her shoes you have to take the whole foot off.

You may argur that they are O.K nothing wrong with Bratz, or My Scenes. But in my eyes they are only fit for teenagers and Adults. Not young Children.

Bratz Such in my book, but maybe to you. They look different. I can respect you're choice to get them. But can you at least accept my choice why I do not like that Nasty look. Because that is what I see when I see Bratz. You just see them in a different way than me.

Care bears are cool.
Rainbow Bright is just starting to show.
My little Pony Rules ..!!

Even if Bratz was the only toy left on the planet to buy for kids, getting out of the plush, and into the new thing. My girls would will be playing with plush toy's forever.

ABCWinter ( Laurie : )
 
Well, My Little Pony had to compete with Barbie at the time of the G1s. Barbie was at that point selling incredibly well (at least I think so). So MLP has always had competition, especially from the doll world. Even if it is not the top selling girls toy, it will still turn a profit for the company. Whilst Hasbro are making any sort of profit they will most likely continue the line.

I have got a few Bratz ladies myself. My friends all think they are the coolest thing and call them my *cheap lady* dolls. But they are way more expensive to collect than MLP. I think MLP would be more likely to be bought on a whim for a child than a Bratz doll.

I also believe that love of MLP is highly contagious. I was once lining up ponies so I could pick one to buy, and a little girl saw me doing it and begged her mother to get a pony today. Her mother said that they came in for Barbies, but the little girl was sticking with MLPs, and her mother bought her a few. My cousin, aged 7, has one bratz doll and 4 ponies, 3 of which were bought by my mother for her. She has also seen my collection and marvelled at the fact that MLPs looked 'different' almost 20 years ago. She has now requested ponies for Christmas, and is confident that I know which ones she has, so she won't get any doubles :lol: She even asked if one day she could have a rare one!

In short, all you can do Caramel Crunch, is keep on buying and spread the love :wink:
 
Somehow I don't believe that's going to happen anytime soon. Ponies are selling very well. And just because shelves are always stocked, doesn't mean ponies aren't popular. Perhaps the stores keep on ordering them because there is such a demand. At my local TRU I always see new ponies being stocked, but I always see the same single Bratz doll sitting on the shelf. I think MLP are also very popular because they are very cheap and easy to give as gifts. If I was looking for a simple gift for a child who I didn't know much about, a MLP would always be suitable. Some parents don't allow their children to play with Bratz, not to mention they're waay too expensive. I believe the ponies are going to be around for a while. Bratz have been popular sellers every holiday since they came out, but that isn't necessarily going to hurt MLP. I think that Bratz are attractive to younger children because they are very detailed, and immortalize the things the world seems to think are important today(small waist, trendy clothes,etc) I don't think Bratz are horrible. On the other hand, I collect them but am not as avid a collector as with MLP, I'd go broke if I was :O
 
Re: Pony Rule....!!! Bratz Drool, and make me puke....

ABCWinter said:
Care bears are cool.
Rainbow Bright is just starting to show.
My little Pony Rules ..!
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Rainbow Brite was short lived. A comapny named Toy Play bought the rights to market the merchandise. They sucked really badly at it. They have no idea how to market. So I think it did pretty bad and they stopped production.

Thery only made 4 charcters, starlite and some sprites. Some stuff was good while other stuff was >.<.
 
Well, I wouldn't be comparing Bratz and MLPs, because it's really an apple and organes sort of deal. There's room on the toy shelf for them both because they are basically nothing alike. One is an animal, and one is a fashion doll. The sales of one are unlikely to effect the other.

I'd also like to add, even if they stop making g3's it doesn't mean the community is going to suddenly implode. We'll still have boards and chats and customs...just like we did before g3s. So just enjoy the collecting and the community, it's not going anywhere! :)
 
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caramel crunch235 said:
to lady G.

the price of MLP G3's today are cheeper than when the G1's in the later 1987. to 1992 were priced at £5.99 if I rember correctly as I have a good memory so my mum. all way's keep's saying to me.

but you have to rember that the G1's came with a brush or comb and a ribbon and /or some other accessory that came with them.

G3's only come with a brush so their for they are cheeper that's why they sell here in the uk for £4.99p .

unless you want a G3 pony. that comes with extra's like the pony fashions ponies. that come with brush outfit, hair accessory and shoes.
their for they cost £7.99p.
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Well according to the prices that are still stick to my backcards, between about 1986 and 1991 (ish), the cost of ponies was between £3.75 and £4.99.

And you have to take into account that the cost of living has gone up significantly in that time. Prices as a whole have gone up over the past 10 years, yet ponies have stayed the same or got cheaper.

The later G1s did have any more accessories than the new G3s (perhaps a ribbon, with the brush, but they cost pittance to make), so I don't think the number of accessories actually has much impact on the base cost of MLP. The G3 ponies that come with extras that I see are £6.99. And the same thing happened in the 1980s as well.

To have the G1s CHEAPER than the early 1990s, when the price of everything else has gone up, is impressive.

Also, ponies are cheaper than a lot of the other brand-name toys on the market at the moment.
 
I think MLP is selling pretty well at least in my local markets (In Finland). I didn't buy a certain pony immediately, there were many in the shelves, went back next week and all were gone. I rummaged the shelf through, too, ARGH. The shelves are often empty too. Last christmas they were basically all empty just before christmas.
 
Chiming in with all so far that have said that ponies are doing well and adding that while the "tweens" might buy Bratz, that. My niece's mother won't let her daughter have a single Bratz doll, even when she's older. She's starting young too--she's only one and a half and she laughs when I point to the Bratz Dolls and say, "Evil! A Pox on thee!" But ponies? She'll let me buy them for her forever. I've even got her saying "pretty pony."

I am personally creeped out massively by the Bratz. At least the My Scenes can take off their shoes and have barbie feet underneath. No feet... *brr*. It chills my barefooting heart.
 
Bratz was the top seller in Singapore like... year 2003? :D Back in Singapore, I do think the ponies are competing directly with Barbies and Bratz, they're all going after the most popular girl toy. Care Bears were in the chase for a time, and nearly crashed MLPs bad I think. Then suddenly, Care Bears vanished from the shelves. MLPs has been climbing up the ladder ever since then. If I am not wrong, Bratz is no longer number 1 in SIngapore. I know for one that Bratz is banned in my family, my aunts and uncles do not allow their kids to play with Bratz and some Barbies that reflects a materialistic lifestyle. And according to Hasbro Singapore, MLP is one of their best selling toyline, though sales have slacked a little this year, partially because they jacked the price by a dollar, but the other reason is (I believe) due to their ordering screw up. They're giving away the cartoons, but are not selling lead characters in stores! Till now, Singapore still doesn't have Star Catcher, and might not get Hidden Treasure. We're missing all the prettiest ponies! I'm glad I'm staying in Australia during school terms, so I can get ponies on both sides.
 
It's so hard to say that one toy is competing with another...so many kids play with so many different ones!

But, yes, it's so hard to compare Bratz and Ponies. Bratz take a chunk out of Barbie sales more than MLP. Girls that like clothes and dating and such are more interested in dolls than horses. The girls that don't care much about girly things are more drawn to ponies...like I was when I was little. I hated Barbie, and the only ones I got were hand-me-downs from my older cousins. I had ponies all over my room!

Another thing I am seeing though, is younger girls that bought Bratz are losing interest now. My niece, for instance. She just turned 11 in Feb, so we bought her the Bratz Pad house thingy...on super sale, so only $50 instead of $200! She's already done playing with it, and has lost interest in her dollz, too. Part of that may be from having to bury her 16 year old brother last Nov, but her friends are getting the same way. Getting too old to play with dolls. I think they are all just packed away somewhere, until she gives them to my daughter!

Ponies, on the other hand...when you get tired of playing with them, they are still pretty and I can see them staying on a shelf, just being looked at. And being an animal, they have a more universal appeal. I have Barbies, but they have been packed away for a long time. I like some of the collector ones, but my ponies are out where I can see them!

If anything, I can see Littlest Pet Shop being more of a threat to the future of MLP than Bratz...
 
I don't think someone has to see a G1 to appreciate the G3s.

I think that Hasbro did a fine job of recreating them, unlike the very different G2...everytime I go to Walmart or any other store, the shelves are practically empty. And whenever I carry my MLP purse, people compliment it, young and old :D
 
Squirtsquirt said:
If anything, I can see Littlest Pet Shop being more of a threat to the future of MLP than Bratz...
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I don't see LPS as a threat to MLPs in anyway since they're both made by Hasbro! Also I see LPS as a complement product to MLPs. I love getting those LPS pets for my ponies. I can't stand the ones that came with costume Skywish, Sew and Golden Delicious - they're so ugly! I prefer to use LPS pets to be my ponies' pets. The turtles are especially cute. In fact, that's what they're doing in Singapore. LPS are always sold side by side with MLPs (most of the time at least).
 
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