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Personally, I don't like Bratz. I remember someone on the board once calling the Bratz Babiez "prostitots," which is the most accurate description around. Babies wearing makeup and sexy clothes, driving cars and playing pool?! I can't believe that parents are buying these dolls for their children. Although, those of you who say that their popularity is dying out are correct. One of my co-workers has three daughters (14, 10, and 5). The 10-year-old loved Bratz just last Christmas but has since grown out of them. And her five-year-old has been fascinated with My Little Pony for as long as she's been able to get her hands on one.
My sister will be turning five in November, and while she is interested in Barbie (mostly the fairytale dolls...I spent a fortune on her the Christmas that the Swan Princess line was out) and Disney Princesses, she isn't interested in Bratz at all. Maybe she's still too young for them. I don't know, but what I do know is that even if she does show interest in these dolls in the future, I will not buy them for her, and I highly doubt that my parents will either. They simply do not reflect the values and beliefs of my family.
My Little Pony is, as someone else has said, timeless. I remember being a little girl and wanting a horse so badly, as did all of my friends, and as does almost every other little girl on Earth. My parents are, by no means, rich and could never afford to actually give me a horse. But they could give me a lot of Ponies, and Megan, and the Paradise Estate. And I was satisfied with that. Yes, I did have a lot of Barbies too. And I also collect Barbies, which was a collection started and still mostly maintained for me by my parents.
My sister looks at my G1s on display and marvels at them. She thinks it's so cool that her 20-year-old sister has toys just like she does. Just as I was reading this thread, she came down to say goodbye before she went to preschool and saw the Ponies on the laptop screen and said, "Awww! Ponies! I like Ponies, Jamie." When I buy, I usually buy two of each when I can afford to do so, one for myself and one for my sister. And there is nothing more satisfying to me than passing on something I love, or seeing a parent choose a Pony for his/her child. So even when G3s do cease production (Nothing lasts forever.), as long as a love for Ponies has been passed down, Ponies will be around for a very long time.
 
We can't KEEP MLPs on the shelves in Orlando -or- Las Vegas. Somehow I doubt Hasbro's going to pull them any time soon. It'll take YEARS and many different types of ponies to keep the line looking fresher before they give in. I'm thinking that the G3s will last longer than even the G1s. Which is good.. cause G2s more or less bombed ;).
 
As a mom to a soon-to-be-6-year-old, my daughter is forbidden to ever have Bratz- they're way to streetwalkerish. I agree, Bratz probably are much more of a threat to fashion Barbie than fantasy little kid-aimed ponies (or fairytale Barbies, for that matter).
And as for G1 vs. G3, our introduction to ponies IS G3s- I was just in a discussion with my daughter yesterday, she refuses to believe G1s are REAL MLPs- she lumps them with the fakies! (the magnetic feet are the defining factor to her, although she loves 'fakies' as much as 'real' MLPs). :roll:
 
Night Mare said:
Which is good.. cause G2s more or less bombed ;).
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Not in the UK they didn't. In fact, the only reason they vanished in the UK was because G3 came out over here and replaced them entirely over there. Otherwise they'd probably still be in manufacture.

Interesting, then. Perhaps G3s are doing wonderfully in the US but not, for example, in the UK. It's not much of an imagination stretch to think, therefore, that perhaps production/distribution in one country would cease and it would continue in another country.
Hmmmmm!
 
Here, the G3 sellings are okay. Not bad or really good, but it's looking like they are okay at least. Maybe it differs from city to city.

At least MLPs can't be outrun of Bratz in Germany, because the line was cancelled in the very early beginning of this year. Seems like little girls here didn't like their ****-style and another point surely is the price. A normal Bratz doll costed 40,00 Euros, sometimes only 20,00 Euros. I think most girls and their parents wasn't willing to pay such a high amount for a doll of that size.

And Care Bears didn't sell well, they didn't sell at all here. They are now on clearance since who knows how much months and they are still totally ignored. When they came up, I thought they would sell better, because they were very popular in the eighties here and so the parents would remember their once beloved Care Bears and buy them for their children. But nothing like that happened ... It seems to me, that plush dolls aren't popular anymore here.

The girls-toyline that sells best, seems to be Polly Pocket. I normally always see little girls with their parents in front of the Polly Pocket shelves, who are talking about, what set to buy this time. (Sometimes the girls really become loud *grin*.)

Barbie sells good, too, but it looks like, that Mattel don't really have any new good ideas. They are just flooding the shelves with all kind of princesses.
Um, but I absolutly like those tiny fairy dolls from Fairytopia, in the jewel shaped box. They are so adorable!
 
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I personally think they are cathcing on pretty well which is good and bad. Before the new ponies came out little kids could care less about the MLP G1's at Value Village, now I can barely find any because the little girls love ponies again and buy them all up old and new.
I keep hearing "oh we had a ton of old ponies today but a little girl came and bought them." Bah! I'm happy someone else is playing with them but I hate getting burned all the time.

Torrent
 
i think the ponies are doing ok... they sell pretty decently around here. i wouldn't worry about the bratz dolls cuz they're just a dumb fad toy that will wear itself out eventually. i really don't see them being as long-lasting as mlp. ponies are a classic toy. i mean, can you imagine them bringing back bratz in 20 years? i can't!

i wonder what they would wear? i probably shouldn't think about it...
 
I think part of the reason might also be that the G1's had a cartoon and theater released movie (along with other movie specials). The cartoon is a big influence on my MLP fandom, as I collect a lot of different ponies, but a good majority of that focuses on those who appeared on the cartoon.

For example the 2nd set of Twinkle Eyes...Mimic, Quackers, Locket, Bright Eyes, Tic Tac Toe and Speedy...I believe only Mimic and Locket appeared on the cartoon, and ironically enough those are the only 2 in the set I really like! Quackers and Speedy are allright, but because they didn't appear on the cartoon, I don't have this burning desire to own them as I do Locket.

I mostly saw the main series...I didn't see Escape from Catrina and the Midnight Castle movie until much much later, and actualy I don't really care for those ponies either. For me it's ALL about flutters, twinkle eyes, so softs, princesses...that generation of ponies. Year 4-5-6ish.
 
All toys have a lot more to compete with now as opposed to 20 years ago. I don't think the G3's will end any time soon. They still have more babies, brothers, uni's, flutters, etc to pull from their sleeve. Yes the g3's will eventually end, but oh well. In 15 or 20 years, there will be the G4's (providing Hasbro doesn't collapse). It would be even more awesome if they brought back all of the G1's :D
 
Y'know, I was just in Tescos and a father was saying (to his wife/partner rather than the child), "Why don't we put the Bratz back and get a pony instead."

And then as I was going round the clothes section, a little girl asked her mum, "Why does that lady have ponies in her basket?"

I thought it was cute :)
 
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And then as I was going round the clothes section, a little girl asked her mum, "Why does that lady have ponies in her basket?"
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You made me remember something the happened to me in the checkout! I was buying some new ponies around last Christmas and the little girl sitting in the shopping cart behind me loudly said, "Look, My Little Pony!" She was about four or five years old and her mom told me that she loooved My Little Ponies and could name them all. Sure enough, she started pointing to each pony in my basket and listing off each one! It was adorable! :D

~LM~
 
Personally, I think both G3 MLPs and Bratz will have a long shelf life, based on my involvement in both communities. There's so much to do fashion wise for Bratz and so many revamped/new ideas for G3's that I think collectors of both can breathe easy for at least several more years. :)
 
Angelus said:
I think part of the reason might also be that the G1's had a cartoon and theater released movie (along with other movie specials). The cartoon is a big influence on my MLP fandom, as I collect a lot of different ponies, but a good majority of that focuses on those who appeared on the cartoon.
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I totally agree. Seeing your toys "come alive' onscreen makes them infinitely more appealing than just thinking of them as dolls on your self (not that that's not delightful enough to young pony lovers). It gives them a persona, one that you can relate to and commiserate with, and sometimes aspire to. I always wished I had Gusty's guts and athletic ability.

I don't collect G3s, but I have noticed that many young kids collect them. But once kids get up to age 8 or 9, nowadays kids are so sexualized so early (call it the Britney Syndrome) that ponies tend to fall in priority. I'm no social psychologist, but I doubt today's kids will latch on to MLP the way we did in the 80s. Don't expect the G3 line to last a decade like G1 did.
 
babygoldenautumn said:
Don't expect the G3 line to last a decade like G1 did.
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Ya, but then there's still all of us to keep it alive! Pony collectors never grow old! We'll expire before we stop collecting! Or, run out of money :oops: lol I'm 19 and my boyfriend is always telling me "One day you wont care a thing about those and you will wish you had all that money back"
nah ;) I'll be 50 and still trying to get Rapunzel and Columbian AJ mwahah!

And too, these new looking ponies are a new experience for little girls. Yes they may be sexualized too early (that really makes me mad :evil: )but not all of them. There's plenty of little girls who are still little girls. (Help me out here, I'm trying to have hope!) :)
 
babygoldenautumn said:
Angelus said:
I think part of the reason might also be that the G1's had a cartoon and theater released movie (along with other movie specials). The cartoon is a big influence on my MLP fandom, as I collect a lot of different ponies, but a good majority of that focuses on those who appeared on the cartoon.
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I totally agree. Seeing your toys "come alive' onscreen makes them infinitely more appealing than just thinking of them as dolls on your self (not that that's not delightful enough to young pony lovers). It gives them a persona, one that you can relate to and commiserate with, and sometimes aspire to. I always wished I had Gusty's guts and athletic ability.

I don't collect G3s, but I have noticed that many young kids collect them. But once kids get up to age 8 or 9, nowadays kids are so sexualized so early (call it the Britney Syndrome) that ponies tend to fall in priority. I'm no social psychologist, but I doubt today's kids will latch on to MLP the way we did in the 80s. Don't expect the G3 line to last a decade like G1 did.
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Exactly! Sometimes it's fun to build on personalities that were given to the ponies in a cartoon that you watch almost everyday (as opposed to a few isolated DVD releases). When you've got a collection of 50 in your herd, it's not always easy to come up with 50 different personalities. I loved Fizzy's ditzy personality, Gusty's boldness, how Buttons and Wind Whistler were smart, North Star's British accent (who knew? lol), how unconfident Galaxy was (like in Baby it's Cold Outside), how sweet and caring Ribbon was...good times.

As you can see I was very high on unicorns, lol...I was a big fan of magic powers, so of course it was more fun to like them. I also love love love flutter ponies, and wish they appeared on more episodes! They had the whole movie ordeal, and then 2 eps for the End of Flutter Valley, and I believe Forget me Not made an appearance in the Return of Tambelon.

In fact, some of the ponies in general did not get enough air time! I'm not a fan of the actual pony Whizzer, but her cartoon character was hilarious, and I can only remember her from Sweet Stuff and the Treasure Hunt. And I think Masquerade only had 1 major appearance 2, in that episode that was all about Posey. Seems like Fizzy and Galaxy had the most...er..."camera time" out of all the twinkle eyes...I remember them being on a lot. Sweet Stuff, Masquerade, and Whizzer had 1 (maybe more) cameos, and Gingerbread kinda got the shaft...I know she appeared, but didn't have many lines I think.

Anyway, now I'm babbling...I heart cartoon!
 
You know, I really think it has less to do with Bratz being bought over Ponies and more to do with the number of Bratz dolls being delivered to stores. I can never find the Bratz I want, even if it's a new shipment. But I always find a bunch of the Ponies I want. :D
 
You know, as a collector of Bratz dolls as well as MLPs, I'm always amazed at the different reactions of people in the different communities. In the Bratz forums I visit, I've never seen anyone say anything negative about MLPs, even when cross-collectors like me mention them - the reaction is always something along the lines of 'aww, ponies. They're so cute!', even though I know most of those collectors do think ponies are childish.

On this board, where supposedly everyone is meant to play nice and not offend other people, heaven *forbid* someone mention The B-Word without streams of insults and curse words flooding from many people's posts. People can't just be satisfied saying "I wouldn't buy them for my child", they have to rant about OMG-LIPS this and OMG-HIPS that and OMG-PROSTITOTS the other.

I think some people need to really grow up and realise that you can express your opinions in ways that don't involve insulting and deriding something that might bring other people a lot of happiness.
 
Girls don't like ponies? That will be news to my nieces of four and six. They're both crazy about ponies! The older one does have a few Bratz dolls (which I don't think are really appropriate for her age), but that just shows that the two lines can exist together without the world imploding.
~Erica
 
Considering that the shelves here in Darwin are practically permanently empty of G3 MLPs and they can't stock the shelves fast enough whereas the Bratz dolls don't seem to be leaving the shelves at ALL! I think MLP has a very secure future :)
 
*hugs sharnofshade* I agree.
I'm pretty sick of the Bratz bashing myself. That's totally not what this topic was supposed to be about, but I guess nobody can resist giving their vehement opinion on...
a plastic toy.
 
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